Therefore, bigger pellets will penetrate deeper. Regular reader Jim in NC recently suggested I write more about buckshot, adding that I should not dismiss buckshot deer hunters as a bunch of knuckle dragging rednecks who should be shooting driven pheasants with Holland and Hollands. Hardly. I actually killed all of my deer this way. Ive got a Beretta 1301 that actually patterns with #1 at 25 about like what your barrel was doing, so probably about the same thing for that particular gun, but Ive got other shotguns that dont pattern like that. It has also been proposed that, at distances beyond 25 yards, the pellets would not have sufficient energy to stop a suspect or, for instance, penetrate their leather coat. Published Oct 10, 2019 5:15 PM. I agree,that's the gun I use and it's a killer. . This shotgun is a version of what the NYPD highway officers carry. In other words . Our agency had tested this load extensively and have found that the more constrictive the choke, (using a standard Remchokes and Benelli CRIO chokes), we get increased pellet deformation we due to the design of the Flite Control wad. That is not hard to do since I have patterned my factory choke at 60 yards with 000b 3.5 with 75% in a 3ft circle. Times have changed since then.3. But, I digress. The most common, and arguably the best buckshot for deer is 12-gauge 00 buckshot in a 2 inch shell. Generally, this is 30-yard buckshot. There will be about a 3-inch circle in the front of the shoulder that is non-lethal, the shoulder ball joint. The more pellets, the greater chance of a killing shot. The 00 buckshot (plated, pattern-controlled) load maintains a hit probability of 50+% out to 52 yards, which is the limiting factor in maximum effective range because the individual pellets are sufficiently massive and have a high enough velocity to retain terminal effectiveness to a distance of 104 yards. The more sectional density, the better it will retain energy and the deeper it will penetrate. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Maximum effective range is defined here as: These two criteria required three points of analysis: Two phases of terminal ballistics testing were conducted: shooting of factory shotshells into gelatin at 10 feet distance and shooting single buckshot pellets into gelatin at 10 feet. Size, penetration, and energy all make buckshot more lethal than birdshot. If you fire at the head, half of the pattern will also be covering the spine and neck. However, you may visit "Cookie Settings" to provide a controlled consent. It will be noted from above that the physical distance between the muzzle of the test shotgun and the paper targets was 40 yards for the #1 buckshot (plated, pattern-controlled), 00 buckshot (unplated, buffered) and 00 buckshot (plated, pattern-controlled.) Tested ammunition was: Show more Show. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. however, I do not recommend firing a load of buckshot at a deers head. Maybe not with the entire load, but enough to Hmmm, how many rounds are we going to fire to get enough pellets into this block?. What is your shell/gun combo? The name's Jordan, but friends call me Jordy. Shot Size 00 Buck. The same concept of bird shot applies here, you can hit with more pellets that will do nothing, or not enough. He also said these missing pellets drive LE range officers nuts when they have to account for every projectile fired in training. All of these shotguns are excellent in my opinion, and Ive pointed both brands at more than a few criminals in my law enforcement career. Very good info. Cylinder bore shotgun in use. And you will have a horrible time tracking it without much of any blood trail to follow. But the range to shoot patterns is the range you shoot your birds. Up until then, they produced great patterns. This is our issue shotgun and issue buckshot. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. Back before the days of screw in chokes we deer hunted brair patches and cedar thickets with with hounds and shotguns. Phil Bourjaily From a distance of about 8 feet, the double-barreled shotgun blows pie-pan-sized holes through the wall, cutting down his adversary. Movies can be entertaining and those mentioned are worth watching, but dont look to Hollywood for accurate gunplay. Bird shot at close range does not have time to spread and will it as a wad..one also has the wad cup going to hit the person the target as well. probably about 10% so a 25 yard pattern would be about 27.5". Shotguns are well known for their ability to increase hit probability and to deliver what is commonly believed to be devastating terminal effectiveness at close range. Enter to WIN the Smith & Wesson and Black Hills package. If you are shooting No.3 or No.4 buckshot, you should keep it under 30 yards. I tried several buckshot tubes with regular wadding buckshot, patterns were acceptable to 50 yards. I will take her target shooting, but I am curious if anyone can tell me what to expect. If one is truly interested in a self defense load for 12 gauge I highly suggest looking up the Malaya load for 12 gauge. Ive watched it happen in super slow motion at the Federal test lab, where engineer Erik Carlson told me had witnessed the same phenomenon many times and concluded that pellets fall into line because of a drafting effect. Powdercoat does help in groupings. Some brands and lines of ammo are significantly better than others and that affects the pattern a lot as well.Aiming for the front corner ofthe shoulder gives a good spread and limits skull damage. What shotgun round is best for home defense? In fact, the widest group fired, using the Vang-Comp-modified Remington 870, measured only 22 inches at 105 feet. JOHN: Well, we were talking about it and what we wanted to know was, how far out can we take buckshot and still have it pass the FBI heavy clothing terminal ballistics standard? So, thats what we did. Buckshot has greater recoil to contend with but the trade off is excellent wound potential. Buckshot traveling fast enough to make incapacitating hit at this range (12.0 or deeper penetration in nominal 10% ballistic gelatin). I would also suggest full length barrels, to increase accuracy, velocity, and tightness of the groups. Moving to a IMP MOD choke, it patterns around 10"-15" inches. I use BB, F buck, and #4 Buck for hunting Coyotes. Thats our control, thats what we do with our handgun ammo. 4 Buck and modified chokes because that is probably what we had. Ready for a laugh? Shots were fired from a standing position off a makeshift monopod. We need to mention we were using your [Mossberg 590 with a] Vang Comp barrel thats optimized for FliteControl. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". With flush chokes, the taper is more pronounced creating less accuracy. In fact, at 25 yards, the 14-inch-barreled 590A1 produced a pattern 1-inch smaller than the 500. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". Many people have false impressions about shotguns based on gunplay in Hollywood movies. Keep Reading. With the Fiocchi Low Recoil round (8 pellet) - the group opens up to 18-20" and always seems to have at least one flier. The rounds were shot from a Mossberg 500 12-gauge shotgun with a 20-inch barrel length and full choke. If Federal made their heavier than lead Heavyweight pellets in buck sizes and loaded them with a Flitecontrol wad, who knows how far away you could shoot deer with them. This means: A) devastating ballistic impact on target; and B) youve got to aim the shotgun. Generally 00 buck will open up about 1 per yard traveled with a cylinder bore 12 gauge. Size, penetration, and energy all make buckshot more lethal than birdshot. A 12 gauge shotgun shell holds 8-9 pellets of 00 shot, 8 pellets of 000 shot. Great load for Hunting, Home Defense or Tactical Shooting. The Winchester and the Federal preformed the best. I recommend RTS Tactical for reliable, rifle-stopping options, Youre worth it. *I have found the *rougher* the choke, the tighter the pattern, all things being equal. At 25 yards, figure a decent barrel will "pattern" around 30" which is larger than the average human. Posted September 15, 2013 in Ammunition by Steve Johnson with 19 CommentsTags: shotgun. JOHN: Well, they dont pattern with anything and thats the thing I kind of wonder if most of peoples opinion on shotguns are based off of one shotgun they had that they did this one thing with and then never did anything else. CHRIS: Yeah, theyre around 1100 feet per second. I tried Flite-Control w/ LMOD and it threw a pattern the size of a small car, lol. The idea you need to have a short barrel is foolish, you gain a slight amount of maneuverability for a great sacrifice in accuracy and effectiveness. 1150 fps buckshot is reduced recoil, full power 00 buckshot loads of 2 3/4 12 gauge are actually around 1350, interestingly enough, his under powered tests actually reinforces the effectiveness of the cartridge. Jordan has taught marksmanship, woodsmanship, and self-defense classes. Is the slight gain worth the loss of that extra, potentially lethal pellet? Federal Premium LE127 00 full power buckshot, 9-pellet The wad itself is very thick (like a platic cup) and we have found that the the pellets are remaining nestled in the wad for a longer distance while traveling down the barrel. The big advantage of using a slug is that it has a much longer effective range than buckshot. But they did all require a finishing shot. This particular shotgun has been outfitted with a SureFire forearm with an integral weapon light as well as an ATI adjustable stock and pistol grip combo. Note that some of the Dead Coyote shattered. Package Quantity: 100. One of the best features of the shotgun is its versatility. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. Scott said they experimented with different numbers of steps and five proved to be the best for 00 and 000 buck although he didnt know the reason why. Home Ammunition How Does Buckshot Perform at 50 Yards? Although my own agency uses a reduced-recoil tactical load, I was curious to see how a full-charge load would fare in these tests. GENERALY no one should need a very long shot inside their home or apartment. If all my shots were going to be in thick brush, I would be tempted to shoot 1 buck. We set up targets and shot them from measured distances to note the size of the spread. Paste as plain text instead, We reserve the right to edit as appropriate, delete profane, harassing, abusive and spam comments or posts, and block repeat offenders. Attached File Attached File Attached File. The buckshot is pure lead, and it's cheaper than most of the other options out there. . Though it has less constriction than modified choke it delivers 50 percent of the pellets in a 30 inch at 40 yards. The Dixie Tri-Ball has 3 60 caliber lead balls in it going about 1,00 fps. I know Mossberg's are usually HUGE, and Vang's barrels have a very gentle constriction, so they are a different animal all togather. The stuff is a poor performer past about 20-25 yards. TSS #4, Kicks GT .670, 50 yards . Most stock barrels were less than .5 per yard. Last time I patterned a bunch of buckshot, an extended Modified choke worked best for me. JOHN: So for me, I guess the big takeaway was that inside of 25, the shotgun is devastating. They want to take your guns because they plan to do something to you that might cause you to shoot them. Some folks call them hermaphrodites while others swear that they're antlered does. It's all about the pattern when it gets to that 50 yards that counts. This particular shotgun has been customized by 870 maestro Hans Vang of Vang Comp Systems. The patterns were a single hole out to 20 feet. This gave the reasonable expectation that all shots taken during the dispersion testing were aimed at the center-of-mass of the FLETC Transitional Target II. Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. Buckshot pellets are significantly larger than birdshot. The big question has been, is the gain of the weight and effectiveness of each individual pellet worth the loss of one whole pellet? These smaller pellets won . An extended choke on your Benelli is going to help but maybe not as much as you need. The most extensive testing was done with #1 buckshot single-launched buckshot and #1 buckshot shotshells as they are in the middle of the tested group (#4, #1 and 00 buckshot) in terms of sectional density. One pellet that disrupts either the brain or the spine will bring your deer down on the spot. On a 45 yard shot at a poster-board, 3 shots out of 3, all 8 hit the 22x28" posterboard, which leads me to think that the fliers on these 25 yard targets weren't off by far. But why does more penetration of a few outweigh less penetration of many? The 000 spreads at a linear rate instead of an exponential one, all the way out to about 50 yards. Brass Fetcher Ballistic Testing recently conducted an eye-opening ballistic gelatin test of buckshot at 50 yards distance. With a 12 gauge shotgun and a selection of ammo from 9s to buck and slugs you can shoot anything on Earth that walks or flies. This is generally loaded with nine of the 33 caliber lead balls to go about 1,250 feet per second. choke instead of IC. If I take an 18-inch circle and put it centered on a deers head, most of the pattern doesnt cover anything vital. I know that [#00 buckshot] penetrates a little more at 10 feet in the standard test, and for us, we verified that. Slugs are good to go up to about 100 yards: both because they . Posts: 1,327. Loaded with our Power-Piston one-piece wad for consistent patterns. Then at 50, the #00 was penetrating about where the #1 was at 25. A 410 bore gets only 3 pellets of 000 shot per 2 3/4 shell, though there are some 5 pellet shells in 3 inch shells. Were doing something a little different today. 10" @ 10 yards, 25" @ 25 yards, 50" @ 50 yards. Since there is no difference in the long range performance of the two shells, we recommend the Federal LE132 1B load to maximize range and minimize recoil for the defensive shotgun. Its not very big. Muzzle Velocity: 1325. If a shotgun is used for clearing rooms by patrol or SWAT personnel, it is fully capable of making a precise shot. The factory shotshells provide a baseline with which to compare the results achieved with the single buckshot pellets shot into gelatin as a verification of the acceptability of simulating long-range hits with single buckshot pellets shot at reduced velocity. Shooting done during Standard Atmospheric conditions. New Year, New FREE GUN FRIDAY! if you are shooting a good patterning, full power load of 12 gauge 00 or 000 buckshot, 50 yards is about the max. Technically, if you combined the penetration of all the pellets in a load of No.4 buckshot and compared it to the combined penetration of 00 buckshot, the No.4 buckshot wins hands down. I have no experience with extended chokes or chokes with longer taper, but then I have not found the need yet. Am also testing my buckshot patterns. 50 feet- pattern: better. Its consistently the best grouping buckshot out there. You really need to hit the spine. [Part 2], Why Wont the Ruger Mini-14 Just Die? This sphere must penetrate a minimum of 2.95 inches (75mm) but no more than 3.74 inches (95mm)". There isnt much out there in 000 buckshot, its never really been popular. Can 00 buckshot kill a human? Its at home in both the deer gun and the tactical shotgun. WS6 While my HD gun is loaded with #4 buckshot (my longest shot is no more than 15 yards) .. #1 buckshot has more sectional density than the #4 buckshot so the penetration will be better at distance for any given velocity. The pattern is youre accountable for every single round in that pattern onto a man-sized target, easily. If you aim at the lungs, you stand a chance of taking out the spine with the top of your pattern, which would be nice. I should mention that the stock of the Mossberg 500 prevented me from getting down on the bead sights as much as I wouldve liked, so I tended to shoot a little high using the same center-mass target. One ball hit the 24"x 24" backer board, and I was rocked backward a fair piece. If you have a personal-defense shotgun or one assigned to you, go out with the load you intend to carry and pattern the shotgun. you have more of gradual taper on the inside of the choke, also known as the "skirt", because the taper looks like a skirt. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. You can always shoot a larger shell if your gun holds them, they are just more expensive and have a serious amount of recoil. For comparison, my Benelli M2 (Light mod choke) with Remington Low Recoil rounds (8 pellet) averages around 12-14" at 25 yards and rarely has a flier. Dont do that its dangerous and unethical to shoot something you dont clearly see. If I were interested in animal control or something like that, would I take a shot at 50 on something? The information provided here does not represent the views of Cheaper Than Dirt! 00 Buckshot is a good mix of power, easily tailored loads, and controllable recoil. The two different theories are quite different, and to be honest, both take deer every year. If you are shooting No.3 or No.4 buckshot, you should keep it under 30 yards. JOHN: So, for anyone watching, the reason why that is, is that the #00 pellets have a little more mass behind them so theyre going to penetrate a little bit deeper if theyre moving at about the same velocity, which those loads are pretty close. My last deer was shot with 2w Winchester 00 buckshot. Two boards totaling . We see a close correlation between the terminal performance of the single-launched buckshot and the factory shotshells. I try to keep with the same length shell, 2 3/4 inch, as a common factor. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. MOLON LABE. CHRIS: Right, and thats with your gun. just fewer pellets. Of course, all of that is moot if one is using a rifled slug or even the venerable pumpkin ball. This is a little thing we like to call Stuff John and Chris Wanna Know. So John, tell us, what do we want to know today? In my experience patterning buckshot, premium loads pattern better and, not surprisingly, 12 and 15 pellet loads of 00 buck put more hits on the target than does a 9-pellet load. If I remember correctly. Perhapse I can improve. 2-3/4" with Mod. We loaded up with Federal 12-gauge 2 3/4-inch magnum 00 Buck with a muzzle velocity of 1,290 feet-per-second and Winchester 2 3/4-inch high-velocity steel BB shot with a muzzle velocity of 1,550. I only had one 3" shell, with a full choke at 20 yards I had one hit in an 8" circle. I have heard some good things about a neat load from the Dixie Slug Company. A very small, tight pattern with 000 or 00 buckshot is quite effective, but the smaller the pattern, the greater the possibility of a complete miss. So, the head, the neck, or the lungs, which one is best? 50% tighter group @ 10 yards than my non PC buckshot. 3) 3" Federal Vital Shok #4 buckshot - 41 pellets sight: Truglow red dot sight mounted on the vent rib of the barrel. Every "constriction" loosened, gave me 5 yards more of "good" pattern. That leaves Federals Vital-Shok buck, which uses Federals FliteControl wad, as the tightest-patterning buckshot load Im aware of, and it performs in almost any choke so long as its not of the ported or wad-stripping variety. All Rights Reserved. The target was a large piece of paper at a range of 30 yards. The buffered, extra-hard buckshot is contained within a two-piece wad with full-length cuts made to the shotcup. Its 18 g/cc density hits gobblers harder and patterns better than lead or bismuth, ensuring cleaner kills at reasonable distances. At 50 yards you need slugs, or better yet a rifle. Posted December 6, 2008. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. Table of TSS shot 60 yard penetration test data The combination of penetration and effect favors #00 and this is the load that has seen the most development for personal defense. This minimum velocity was found in Phase I, the terminal ballistics portion of the testing. And then when we got out to 100 the #00 was doing what the #1 was doing at 50, which was kind of interesting to me. I have personally never had any animal take a step after being hit, but I will say it . There are 24 pellets in a 3-inch 12 gauge load and with an IC choke you get a nice-sized pattern at 25 yards. 000 is impressive. During my decade at TFB I was fortunate to work with the most amazing talented writers and genuinely good people. It is my best-patterning choke with 00 Buck. I specifically chose the companys Federal Premium Maximum load with nine pellets of 00 buckshot. Now add a little buffer, wad, or both to further protect the buckshot from deforming, and you're well on your way of having a legitimate 50+ yard, tight patterning buckshot load. Close patterns and solid hits are ideal, the spread is nice, but a good central hit with a tight group brings out the true effectiveness of the round. Combat is characterized by rapidly unfolding events taking place unexpectedly and often during periods of low visibility. Federal Premium LE132 00 low recoil buckshot, 9-pellet 3. Dec 25, 2018. Anything under a 20 gauge should not be considered. Ill have to find out if my shotgun will accept a choke to tighten up the pattern as none of us can afford new guns. Most people arming themselves against violent criminals prefer lethality. Its because the slug is heavy enough and powerful enough to penetrate deep and to break heavy bones. I have never seen a choke quite like it. What are the physical state of oxygen at room temperature? Click on the picture to be taken to the Rifleshooter article. As a matter of fact, all of the shotguns easily kept all nine pellets within a standard 19-inch-wide target at 75 feet. I think thats pretty safe to say. Now, I only tried that one round, but still. The driving determinant of drag force is the velocity that an object travels at in this case the 00 buckshot was initially traveling radially outward at 5 ft/sec while the muzzle velocity of this shell was 1300 ft/sec. RE: Buckshot for deer. However, if your average shot is 25 yards at. Because I was getting junk patterns even with an IC constriction, I just wrote the stuff off. Just $1 per month . You cannot paste images directly. Well compare the smallest shot size with the largest. This brings me to the next target zone, the neck. choke had 3 hits in a 8" circle at 25 yards. Most any worthwhile buckshot pattern is going to be completely in a 30" circle other than the odd flier, making comparisons . June 2, 2010 in Shotgun - Technical. Then we took it out to 25 [yards], and then 50, and then 100 yards. in the head of a target for Jerry M. and all 9 rds hit in the head @ 25 yds. Slugs These are essentially oversized bullets designed to be fired from a shotgun. Buckshot pellets must be copper-plated or made of high antimony lead and feature an effective wadding system in order to be considered to fall into the performance category of spherical buckshot. Past 50 is where I go, hmmmm, I dont know about this.. The go-to anti-personnel load is buckshot, which consists of a shot shell loaded multiple smaller projectiles known as shot. Remingtons Magnum 00-buck load has 12 pelletsabout 1 18 ounces of shotlaunched at almost 1,300 fps. As always, some barrels are happier with certain loads. Most of us used No. This one-pot meal slow-cooks tough cuts of game Sign up for the Field & Stream newsletter and get the latest intelligence straight to your inbox. This was to ensure that all shot pellets struck the paper and could be accounted for in the further range calculation. I fired 3 patterns with this, and all 3 are nearly cookie cutter. Do notice that at longer ranges, the shotgun loses its ability to kill very rapidly. Overall, it looks fairly tight but you obviously have some fliers that didn't strike the target. I noted exactly what you did. +1 on the extended choke. JOHN: Right. Personally I prefer #4 buck (NOT to be confused with #4 shot) for home defense. We used two different loads: Federal FliteControl #1 and Federal FliteControl #00 8-pellet. Not many years ago, 50 yards was considered a long . All comments are held for moderation and will appear after approval. #4 buck will pattern 100% in a 20" circle at 40 yards. This way, I maximize pellets in the spinal column and still get some in the lungs. Readily-found shotgun shells tend to fall into the performance category of deformed buckshot due to a lack of plating or an effective wadding system. I think it retarded the wad a bit. A hit in this instance is a hit to the target that would be counted for qualification at FLETC. Ammunition How Does Buckshot Perform at 50 Yards? I think it'd be easier to evaluate the groupings if you only fire one round at each target, but use 2 or 3 different targets (your hold could have been slightly off with one of your rounds and that may have accounted for the 4 pellets off the target). This test consists of firing a .177 caliber steel sphere (BB) into the gelatin block at 590 feet per second (fps) +/- 15 fps. However, nothing has outperformed Remington 000 2.75" from an IC flush-mount thus-far. I just found this; thank you! Tactical Life Gun Magazine: Gun news, gun reviews and gun magazines for gun enthusiasts, military and law enforcement, You use of this website constitutes and manifests your acceptance of our. Another common type of buckshot is #0 buck. All of the shotguns did substantially better than this. Hit probability was determined by shooting a Mossberg 590 from a shooting bench at various distances from a FLETC Transitional Target II with the (5) different cartridge types. Your family is worth it. So how are buckshot patterns affected by distance and barrel length? For example: the 00 buckshot (plated, pattern-controlled) load, on average, spread 6.2 inches from the centerline of the bore by the time the shot pellets had traveled the 40 yards distance. If you dont have a clear shot, dont take it. The soft lead deforms, causing less uniformity and spacing out the shot in the pattern. I have owned several and none would keep the pellets on a 12x20" target past about 20 yards or so. 10 Things to Remember When Buying a Tactical Flashlight. CHRIS: It will if it hits you in the right place, Id say. Ask for advice on chokes for buckshot and youll get every answer from IC to Turkey Full. The results chart is telling: Hit the link for the full article, pictures, and analysis, including the tutorial on back-boring. I am sure many dead deer would argue that yes buckshot is lethal at 50 yards. My Benelli M2 with the IC choke will put it in 5"-7" patterns. Thornton takes Mississippi to The Swede, where he buys a sawed-off, double-barreled shotgun as a holstered sidearm. For Coyotes I personally would use a .223, but if you have to use a shotgun to 75 yards, I'd go with Hornady 3" Heavy Coyote: Hornady Heavy Mag Coyote Ammo 12 Ga 3 00 Buckshot Nickel - MPN: 86224. How effective is buckshot at extended ranges? The shots were taken as a baseline at the FBI standard distance of 10 feet between muzzle and gelatin block. One issue is that no one uses a full choke on a defensive shotgun, IC is the tightest that is practical for defensive use. But something to consider! Dispersion of buckshot pattern with distance. Federal Premium Vital-Shok Buckshot A true magnum load, the Vital-Shok Buckshot offering from Federal Premium features 12, copper-plated pellets of 00 Buckor 1 ouncespushed to 1290 fps. It does work within its practical limits. 100% are in a 30" circle. You can maximize your shotguns effectiveness by selecting buckshot that is effective out to your maximum planned engagement distance and no further. The rule for shotgun patterning has been that you usually get about 1 inch of spread for every yard from the target. FULL is even worse. Same thing with #1 buckshot at longer ranges, more pellets, but less energy and damage per pellet. Much better than aiming at the head. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. The most common buckshot size used for defensive or tactical applications is 00 (pronounced "double-aught"). To me 50 yards is the max ethical range of buckshot. Vang installed his compensation system on the barrel, back-bored the chamber, extended the magazine, installed a dome safety and sidesaddle spare shell carrier and worked on the action. Distances between muzzle and target for the #4 buckshot and unplated #1 buckshot correspond to the maximum distance at which a single shot pellet is expected to be traveling fast enough to score an incapacitating hit. The #4 would be something for walking in the dark using it as a defensive shell i. I did so and would put all 8 on the target about 50% of the time with maybe 1 flier 25% of the time and 2 fliers the other 25%. . Those nine .33-caliber pellets can have serious impact on a human target, and that effectiveness only improves from 75 feet and in. In my Remington's, I shoot a Carlson's turkey choke, and 100% of the pattern is in a 20" circle at 40 yards, with 00 and 000 all going in a 15" circle. They're fun, handy, and can be very practical. Posted: 12/22/2018 6:14:17 PM EST [#1] The 15 yd is smaller than 10 yds , thats pretty impressive ! Hornady has several 00 buckshot that uses their flitecontrol shot-cup wad. Under a 20 gauge should not be considered advice on chokes for buckshot and youll every! You need slugs, or the lungs, which consists of a few outweigh less penetration of many do want. Be honest, both take deer every year, Youre worth it the largest obviously... Was penetrating about where the # 1 and Federal FliteControl # 1 ] the 15 is! Designed to be honest, both take deer every year need slugs, or not enough nothing has outperformed 000... All comments are held for moderation and will appear after approval like call... 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