Precision matters to actual pilots. We are all guessing. I believe the stack in question WAS added relatively recently (it is NOT one of the six clustered together, is was by itself on a different part of the roof. If it was sarcasm, you should include /s so people don't mistake it for a serious reply.Calculations of how much mass of water vapor was being delivered by the stacks and mixed into the air above the plant, with diffusion, spread and distance of the effect from the point of emission weren't in the preliminary. For whatever reason, she was below MDA, and I'm guessing they'll find fuel starvation. There may also be weather equipment at that plant and it may have logging capability. It may be tempting to go below the MDA before the VDP at an uncontrolled field, but then again, why do it and risk death? That building and stack was constructed relatively recently. Maybe Burley and the state of ID can get a 90% grant to build new from feds $3 billion in new funds for airports under Prez Biden and the Dem's passed infrastructure law. Anonymous, if the visibility was as good as you say it was, why did the pilot hit the tower? Easy enough to black out signatures.Was he given permission to take that marker light?You wouldn't think that an expert would expect a strobe light instead of the red marker to be placed that close to the airport, given the easy to find advisory circular guidance, as noted in a previous comment:http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2022/04/cessna-208b-grand-caravan-n928jp-fatal.html?showComment=1650238952384#c1446716018867091538. Notice how the un-guarded ladder portion below the guarded portion of the ladder above the mid-deck platform is angled as a result of the top of the caged portion of the upper ladder having been pushed to the left.Pre-accident street view shows ladder system was straight:https://goo.gl/maps/tPdJ43wFNooD2PUX8, Viewing from ground level by opening and swinging around in these views provides additional context: Street view looking at RW20 centerline from 7th street that can be spun around to face the other way:https://goo.gl/maps/Mv4KYwWvVj7FTW2s5Street view showing another side view of stacks, single stack that is the subject of ladder discussion is at the far right:https://goo.gl/maps/Jfy1KdpC4Yfyiwu77, ^^ Corrected link for pre-accident street view that shows yellow ladder system was straight:https://goo.gl/maps/CqTD5vsKPo3e2cK99. If she was trading altitude to maintain airspeed after a flameout, seems like it would be important to get an idea of what minimum airspeed should be maintained, knowing that the stacks were ahead.The TL:DR for the details shown below is that she was holding 89/88 knots airspeed in the 30 seconds or so before stack impact compared to 96 knots across the tater plant on 4 April's RW20 approach.If you were the C208 pilot and had adequate visual of the ground so near, would you have shallowed the altitude trade off and accepted a lower airspeed than 88 knots to squeak over the tater plant?------ Backup info ------To provide a reference on judging whether airspeed decayed in a manner different from what she would have flown normally (acknowledging the sink rates reported in the data), compare speeds by looking at the last two captured data points as she turned across the tater plant during the uneventful 4 April approach to RW20:Using track log data from:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220404/1318Z/KSLC/KBYIMon 09:52:44 AM 42.5539 -113.7523 271 83 96 4,675 -385Map pinned location of that data point:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5539+-113.7523Mon 09:53:05 AM 42.5501 -113.7611 219 87 100 4,475 -571Map pinned location of that data point:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5501+-113.7611(The 42.5501+-113.7611 location is approx 670 feet closer to the airfield than the struck stack. I admire everyone who is alive and I am happy for those of us, regardless of age who enjoy the freedom to decide on how to spend our time. In general, FlightAware is not intended to be an accurate indication of aircraft altitudes and positions for forensic purposes, so armchair investigators would do well not to draw detailed conclusions from FA data. People have certain biases from who was flying in any accident that makes it easy to manipulate them. This was going under minimums on a non-precision approach and the results are as expected. Too bad comments on here are closed for that accident. The pilot initially replied negative, then subsequently replied that she had crossed the fix. At the least, the isolated stack should have been brightly illuminated using LEDs, and painted with alternating yellow and black rings along its entire height. Carrying that angle across the river and over to the factory she should have been approximately 230 feet above the ground and 160 feet above those stacks. It is however possible to experience a flameout and subsequent loss of power under certain conditions. What a dumb place to put the potato factory, lots of open land, but yeahhh lets put factory with stem stacks right on short final. Your nonsense responses like "false" with zero explanation demonstrates that you have no actual idea what TERPS, an obstacle clearance surface, and approach minimums are. The pilot reported passing the initial approach fix, and about 4 minutes later reported a missed approach. It's true that 109' separation isn't a lot, but the outdated overhead view of the stack that google maps shows tends to make commenters here miss the red steel base structure and sampler's work platform at the very top in the more recent street view images. ", No question that the yellow ladder has been displaced. I venture that your confident swagger and language will be forever humbled. The tower was 60 agl, she lost altitude quickly when she hit the steam cloud. Here's a better angle of the stack and ladder that were struck with the right wing where you can see the gash in the stack, and the damaged section of the ladder.https://gray-kmvt-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/Z9XA94vRdq5ABRdEofwGJeK0tGE=/1200x675/smart/filters:quality(85)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gray/JNAC4GVPRBC7RHHQSIO3P2WAEY.JPGStreet view from US Hwy 30 in June 2019 of same stackhttps://www.google.com/maps/@42.5508056,-113.7581799,3a,60y,310.62h,98.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXjHKzC_zNsmc7-AQYHeIAw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en. All GA pilots should know that a plume of steam vapour and condensate is a concentrated convective cell storm. It is the end of rational dialogue to follow the leftist crap who are "educating" my grandchildren. Anyone know her duty schedule leading up to this accident? These would apply to a frequent, small, non-precision, destination airport, and those of us that taught approaches appreciated visualizing the descent or stepdowns to MDA. Wind coming from 190 to 210 and the runway being on the 202, it necessarily follows that any plane flying that approach will be in the steam at one point.This is when the pilot lost visibility and decided to go around. The location where the witness was viewing from is a significant factor for interpreting what is reported as seen. Are youtube's oracles saying a silo was hit?Silos are adjacent but it was the #16-036731 stack in the obstruction database that was hit. Looking at flightaware data, the pilot made two approaches on RNAV RWY 20. Yes, the pilot descended below minimums but she did so because she had the runway in sight, which is NOT a minimums "bust". For specific information, you may request a copy of . The FAA is expected to release the preliminary results of their investigation in the coming days. Joseph Crenshaw, 45, his wife Jennifer, 43, their son Jacob, 16, and daughter Jillian, 14, died when their Cessna 210 'came apart' in the air over Alabama on Saturday. Personal attacks and hate speech directed at the NTSB investigators, FAA investigators, Designated Pilot Examiners, Kathryn, as well as other members of the aviation blog, are unacceptable because they are not constructive. To Anonymous, use a fake name so I can see who the insults are directed atIs snow considered icing conditions?Snow doesn't always equal known icing conditions. The collision smokestack is 2,639' from the threshold (measured on Google Earth). Fortunately, no one was hurt.The step up from the instruction/GA world to single-pilot 135 is huge. The 3.75 degrees shown on the approach plate is the descent angle from the FAF to the TCH. The only question is why. Since the pilot was already below the MDA in IMC, the combination of snow, cloud, the steam plume, low flight altitude (75 agl), did not allow her to see and avoid the tower.A review of air traffic control (ATC) communication with the pilot revealed the approach controller issued the pilot the current altimeter setting and verified that the pilot had the current weather and notices to airmen reports for BYI. A special automated weather report for BYI about the time of the accident reported 1 mile visibility in light snow and mist Video footage recovered from a security camera located on a processing plant revealed a view of the rooftop of the processing plant, along with a smokestack supported by steel framework on the roof. A viewpoint location one quarter mile (1,320 feet) toward the airport from the stack (such as at Gossner's areas adjacent to 7th Avenue) would be very likely to see the approaching aircraft appear to descend into the water vapor plume, but viewpoint locations off to the side of the flight track or Northeast of the stacks have a different perspective.Plant has operated since 2011, so there has been a long period of opportunity where the water vapor plume from the dryer stacks were operating under similar weather conditions and subject to observation, photos and videos of plume behaviour in all wx conditions.Potato plant created artificial IFR conditions! i suggest you read it, and digest it. He owns the minds of those fans and is working toward harvesting their donations in the times ahead. Also no PAPI on that runway so no way to determine her glidepath without visual references. The Santa Monica Fire and Police Departments responded to the scene and were assisted by L.A. County Lifeguards. After the pilot report established at IREME, the controller cleared the pilot for the approach. The obstacle database shows a red light on the stack, but photocell would likely keep it off after sunrise.Watch the Kameraone.com scene video in comments further down, it helps visualize snow fall effects that were still intermittently occurring after ladder trucks arrived. The FAA isn't in the habit of approving approaches that don't meet TERPS, so that is a given. By Plane and Pilot Updated August 12, 2021 Save Article. The crash occurred just after takeoff around 1135 am. It's unclear if anyone else was on board the aircraft. freight dogs fly to some airports that are questionable at best with shaky non precision step down approaches with no glideslope. Only difference is the pleasurable physical appearance of the pilot. Please keep in mind, comments on tragedies like these sometimes come from, and are seen by, people who knew them. From the Flight Aware track log from 10:31:37 EDT to 10:32:04 EDT, a timeframe of 27 seconds, the plane lost 22 knots of ground speed and lost 300 feet in altitude. Why assume a or b? but the sight picture she had of the runway end brought her into the steam cloud. Perhaps this was the pilot's first flight to Burley, or an infrequent stop?Other measures for safety and possible fatigue: No snake river or other possible, large visual cue in sight? Minter was elected to the Santa Monica City Council in 1955 and served as mayor from 1963-1967. The Flight Safety Cessna Caravan Emergency Memory Items Check List calls for Airspeed85 KIAS for Model 208 without flaps or with 20 degrees flaps for an Model 208B Engine Failure Immediately After Takeoff. Kathryn's Report: Cessna 560 Citation XLS+, N560AR: Fatal accident occurred September 02, 2021 near Robertson Field Airport (4B8), Plainville, Hartford County . Just be honest you go below MIN at uncontrolled who would know about it? While they are not flight data recorders in the normal sense, in a crash with no fire they can provide more than enough data for the NTSB to reconstruct what the aircraft was doing and was being presented to the pilot. Replies. She was so young and beautiful and now she is gone. i suspect many if not most do not. Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017. The previous day's BYI flight diverted to Twin Falls.2. Whatever the case, I can't imagine the pain her family is going through. Brittney lived life to its fullest. Always remember the human side, and respect that a lot of people suffer greatly from a loss like this. (All of the info presented below is offered with the understanding expressed in this posting and by others regarding usage of ADS-B data. The pilot was transported to a local hospital where their condition remains unknown. We keep killing ourselves for mostly the same reasons. Also, if the pilot intended the first pass to inspect the runway surface and conditions, they would not have slowed down as much as on the final pass. LINKS:Kathryn's Report: http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2021/10/fatal-accident-occurred-october-11-2021.html#comment-formVasAviation: https://www.youtube.com/w. I highly doubt a certified pilot who clearly was enjoying flying out of SMO would want to close it. Prior to that, the 6,950' altitude transmitted while going back for the second attempt adjusts to the expected 7,000' with the +50' compensation. All seven occupants died, including diet guru Gwen Shamblin Lara and her husband, actor Joe Lara. This is all in the best glide speed numbers. The obstruction database tolerance codes need to be audited in every record to see if declared accuracy limits are being applied to obstructions in approach and departure surface profiles or just the nominal stated elevations are being used.For convenience, here is the decoder link again, with info on decoding the data record starting on the readme pdf's page 5:https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/digital_products/dof/media/DOF_README_09-03-2019.pdf. Narrative: The Cessna 195 force landed on the I-95 (Northbound) following a loss of engine power. However, Brittneys favorite thing of all was flying. Usually when someone does that in a 'Van it's with 20 or full flaps, in the hope of 'parachuting' the plane down to the runway, then adding a touch of throttle just before touchdown.4k hrs. The reported weather doesn't mean anything about conditions at the accident site. Tubers meaning starchy root vegetables like potatoes? As-flown airspeeds of two different freight company C208's approaching the Gem stacks are interesting to compare.N585SA BYI RW20 C208 VFR approaches:4/15/2022 120 knot GS + 27009KT wind component4/26/2022 096 knot GS + 22011KT wind component4/27/2022 127 knot GS + 28005KT wind componentN928JP BYI RW20 C208 VFR approach:4/04/2022 083 knot GS + 22009KT wind componentN928JP BYI RW20 C208 IMC approach w/crash:4/13/2022 081 knot GS + 19008KT wind component. It wasn't.See later comment down thread for time hacks/ADS-B correlation. OTD in 1997, SilkAir Flight 185 crashes into the Musi River in Indonesia after abruptly diving from its cruise altitude. "4,000 feet is short for a Caravan? But hey, what do they know? (Note: BYI METAR winds were 200 at 7 to 8 knots during both approaches. Strange things happen when you get tired. Maybe she saw the snake river and runway but didn't see the stack? Silos? E.g. Below is breaking video of the Cessna 421 crash in Broward County Oakland Park, in Florida. Sunrise was 6:56. 24 much safer and longer runway which I feel more comfortable with. Our beautiful and beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, niece, cousin and friend will be missed more than words can express, but she will be in all our hearts until we meet again. 2021 Milan airplane crash. A financial firm CEO was killed along with three others when a small plane that he was flying crashed shortly after takeoff in Georgia, according to reports . Presumably, the decision to descend from cruise altitude for BYI on the accident day followed similar protocol.Let's look at the METARs available for making the real-time decision on each of those two days:The divert from BYI to Twin Falls on the day before the accident shows up as a turn toward TWF underway at 14:52:44 Z. They still had their own aircraft at SMO through 2017. On a hot day, fine droplets may evaporate before they can fall, so there is only rising air. All three aboard were killed in the crash . "Clipped from the July 1975 Newsletter:https://www.ninety-nines.org/pdf/newsmagazine/197507.pdf(See pdf sheet 5)Also, a 1967 99's newsletter asks members to write Mayor Minter letters, because the Orange County Chapter was still fighting to keep SMO open at that time.https://www.ninety-nines.org/pdf/newsmagazine/196704.pdf(See pdf sheet 15, top left)If not for the Minter's efforts, SMO would have been closed and surrendered to developers decades ago. About 1 minute later, the controller asked the pilot if she had crossed the initial approach fix. The now prevalent hatred behaviors were trained into people by subtle but continuous nudging from news media, social media and marketing. "Nothing new under the sun." So short that they don't meet FAA safety standards. Why not divert and avoid the known and just-previewed danger?Looking at known and possible "Not diverting this time" bias factors:- Known bias factors:1. Additionally, with the needles centered she would have been 100 feet to the right of the stacks on a normal GPS approach.Looking at the ADS-B track on the missed it shows her at 6950 which should be coming from the GPS. Sorry. G1000 avionics can log a lot of data if and only if you have a formatted SD card in the top slot of the MFD. We know the outcome.Don't bust minimums. The airplane just came up a little bit short. The content is there, was always there. Looking at obstacle markings on the BYI RW20 approach plate, it is interesting to compare to ALL of the HEYBURN-associated obstacles that exist in the current 16-ID.dat obstacle database.Notably, the 4179' obstruction shown by the river at 7th avenue in the inset runway detail of the plate is not in the database, appears to be Gossner's Magic Valley Chalet based on low height and location. Solo/Missed Approach/Marginal Conditions/Challenging Airport = High StressIt's the perfect setup for one of those 'undiagnosed preexisting medical conditions' that have been making the rounds these days with athletes.The coroner's report should be interesting - condolences to her family. Steam has water vapor and is warm so it provides significantly less lift. Robert Ray Goins was pronounced dead at the scene while Nathaniel T. Farris was seriously injured and transported to an area hospital for medical treatment after the vehicles they were driving collided just . @billy - The accident pilot was initially flying a 4.1 descent angle leaving JAMID, with 1.6 NM remaining to the RW20 threshold. Quickest way to get there Cheapest option Distance between. she didn't fly into the stack, the steam cloud sucked her right into it by taking all her lift away. You take 400 divided by 375, you get 1.1 Miles from the runway as a VDP. "4,000 feet"How to tell us you aren't a pilot without telling us you aren't a pilot. The wreckage will be recovered on Wednesday, June 8. There are less than 4,000 feet available for landing. There was a small plane crash in North Carolina on June 16, 2022. "The captains change to a vertical speed approach after failing to capture the profile glidepath was not in accordance with UPS procedures and guidance and decreased the time available for the first officer to perform her duties." Those stacks were well outside where any airplane should ever find itself. Steam enters such drums at 140-180C (284-356F) and 10-12 bar. Anonymous said "On a 3 degree glidpath to LPV minimums you are 54 feet above the normal threshold. Louisiana are three of the apparent victims in a plane crash in Lefthand Canyon west of Boulder on July 17. that happens in many non precision approaches, very common.Someone commented:At reaching the edge of the building, 80 + 8 = 88 knots:Wed 10:32:25 AM 42.5520 -113.7592 217 80 92 4,150 -857Airspeed of 88 is ok, yes it fell off but stalling speed is in the low 60's.2nd the descent rate is -857. It's just the view of residents. Freight dispatchers aren't the ones responsible for letting under-equipped airports remain that way. To Anonymous, dated Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:55:00 AM EDTQuestion: What explanation do you have besides your technical dissertation of how to interpret ADS-B data for what occurred besides the broken busted minima mantra? A loss of power, icing, or other emergency situation is definitely possible. I'd be the same. The reported ceilings were well above the MDA, so unless you were sitting in the cockpit next to the pilot, you have no idea if they could make out the runway or not when they passed the MDA. If you are flying on a very cold day, (like Brittney Infanger), and enter a condensate cloud, you will be blinded and lose lift due to the anomaly of stagnant or descending warm air. Even if the tower and building wasn't there and the Bonneville salt flats was in front of the plane she would be touching down in the next 6 seconds. Cessna 182P Skylane, N58807: Fatal accident occurred September 05, 2022 in Cleveland, Bradley County, Tennessee . If the pilot could see to descend below MDA, you they think they would see the building , the tower, and or the parking lot beyond the building, so I conclude she didn't see it, due to either white out conditions or head in the cockpit, (which is absolutely normal on an instrument approach). Surprised to see videos in the docket by astonished onlookers in disbelief that there would be a takeoff.Sometimes KR will re-post when new info comes out. and should have gone around or made sure the diamonds were centered.https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220413/1300Z/KSLC/KBYI/tracklogBoth of those approaches aren't as stabilized so my guess is that she was experiencing a lot of turbulence though the winds were fairly light (8kts) and practically straight down the runway (190). Easy enough to fact check using Adsbexchange and the LiveAtc recording.Results:-Cleared for takeoff @7 minute mark on LiveAtc-ADS-B shows airborne by @23:08:23Z-Flies along coast, gets halfway to Malibu-No airspeed or altitude trouble so far-ADS-B shows a turnback starting @23:14:00-"I'd like to return" @14 minute mark LiveAtc-ADS-B speed & altitude degrading on the way back-Declares Emergency just before 16 minute mark -ATC offers "left base for runway 3" @17 minute mark-ADS-B shows crossing the pier @23:18:04Simple to listen to comm audio source files for yourself:https://www.liveatc.net/archive.phpThis accident's file is found by selecting:Date: 22 December, Time: 2300-2330Z, Feed: "KSMO Tower #1". I'm an engineer and have a bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering and a master's degree in aerospace engineering, with 15 years experience.Using satellite data from Google Earth, I drew up the geometry of this airport and the surrounding area in CAD, to prevent math errors. Why was the pilot of the Caravan 75-80' agl, only 2500' from the threshold? MARLIN, Texas (KTRK) -- Two people dead after a Cessna TU206 crashed Tuesday afternoon in Marlin, Texas. You can use the controls at the top to stop at 14:31:00 and have a look:http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/radar/displayRad.php?icao=KSFX&prod=CREF&bkgr=color&endDate=20220413&endTime=15&duration=1(Link will show that look-back until seven days from 4/13, so copy images before they are no longer accessible if of interest.). If she was still in IMC after minimums, the witness and security camera would not have seen her aircraft. According to the NTSB, the plane's last track point on the ADS-B track was at just lower than 12,000 feet. Funeral services for Brittney Infanger will be held on Saturday, April 23 at noon at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Stake Center in Salmon, Idaho (please be in your seat by 11:45). I just read it and yikes! You are on your own to figure out an appropriate descent angle to keep you clear of the numerous hazardous obstacles on final. The best option for them is to create an entirely new airport in a different location, something they need FAA funding for, and to run the airport the City of Burley is seeking to establish an airport authority.From over a year ago: https://www.kmvt.com/2021/02/26/the-fate-of-the-burley-municipal-airport-continues-to-be-uncertain/. Flying a stabilized approach the plant and the runway should have been visible about a mile out. Despite the terrible ADM, it was a common act of poor airmanship (yoke yanking, early rotation) that induced the incident as noted in the very detailed case study. The decision to divert was made before descending from cruise altitude. I only have about 8,000 hours behind PT engines, so what do I know? They see the tater plant as a job producer airport more of a nuisance. A home without a TV is "weird" here. Amazingly, the flight could have succeeded all things else considered.The onus would appear to be on the plant and surrounding politics in this instance. "The obstacle she hit was less than half a mile from the runway and at or below 100 AGL"Correct. Kathryn's Report: Most Read All Time. The pilot was fatally injured. The POH manual in most light singles states that you don't deploy flaps during an engine out until your aim point can be confirmed to be made just as in regular landing configuration when powered. The single isolated stack is perfectly positioned to snag an aircraft that is suddenly enshrouded in the condensate clouds and losing altitude. The case of the young flight school instructor who got bashed against his Cherokee panel comes to mind. There is a lot of emotion in this thread. The plant releases huge quantities of hot water vapour through stacks, (industrial chimneys). All major components of the airplane remained on the rooftop. But remember runways don't vote "but we can't equip these airports with an ILS"That is a misguided statement, because it is not funding for an ILS but rather the surrounding obstacles at this airport that are preventing it from having better approaches. Private Jet Sales Exclusive Aircraft. The collision smokestack is directly on centerline. The lights would have been hazy through a fog of snow and steam. Oh, right--where IS the VDP on this approach? He saw the KR comments detailing 2 statute mile visibility METAR trending 2.5 miles with lowest clouds well above MDA and also the correlated and mapped descent angle calculations.Tuber commenting by the mindless fans is praising him for apologizing in what was just his latest heartless disparaging of a lost pilot for views. She was truly amazing. The spillover is poisoning minds and public discussion everywhere. Let's do the math. The "starter" typo is an immediate and huge tell to everyone with turbine engine knowledge.Searching for "Ice on the rotor and starter blades" finds lots of copy and paste repetitions online of someone's long ago unnoticed autocorrect goof that changed stator to starter. Excellent comment. )The record again, now with tolerance codes highlighted:16-036731 O US ID HEYBURN 42 33 05.92N 113 45 34.15W STACK 1 00100 04256 R 4 D P 2016ANM01617OE A 2017285For stack 16-036731, code "D" means that the declared accuracy of the recorded vertical information in AGL and MSL is +/- 50 feet, which for a 100' stack is an absurdly large tolerance. 1 / 4. Think logically: If the roof could be seen and descended toward as if it was runway, the Snake river and railroad bridge would be expected to occupy that same view. Sorry about the un-closed bold run-on. Ice on the rotor and starter blades affects their performance and efficiency and may result in flame out. You have nailed it. (see threads further below), It may show in this picture where the aircraft impacted the yellow ladder apparatus and dented the smokestack. Oh BTW no head trauma whatsoever. a pilot is not an athlete either. So much hate over something trivial sad that so many in our society have succumbed to this level. Would the FAA have allowed the company to mount a strobe on the top of that stack, or would it have interfered with the sight picture for a pilot on the glideslope for a landing? The crash happened in shallow surf around 3:15 p.m. A witness captured video showing the Cessna 150A gradually dropping from the sky, hitting the sand and then flipping over not far from beachgoers. A pilot can do a CDFA to the VDP, or "dive and drive" to the self-calculated VDP, either is legal, OK. "It seems very likely that the Caravan was out of the clouds well before reaching the MDH. Harrowing video captured the moment a small plane crashed into a neighborhood near a California high school . 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