Simply quoting Genesis 3:8 does not disprove the point of my post since that verse never says that they walked with God. We know that God is Omnipresent. Genesis 3:2-5. Adam and Eve got to literally hang out with God all day long, face to face. Ok, we have God as a highly elevated being that perhaps didnt want to spend timewith all of this. Thats correct, and I write about that in my book, Fallen. God does not require a garden to have a direct relationship with man, so I dont see how the fact that God created a garden would have anything to do with whether they had a direct relationship (and by extension, that they walked together). On page 57 of Heaven you say Before the Fall, God came to Eden to visit with Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:8). This passage refers to God walking in the Garden after Adam and Eve have fallen, but before God has confronted them. I think your criticism of my article misses the mark. Garden of Eden story: summary. Have you ever wondered exactly how the conversation between God and Adam went down in the Garden of Eden? Im not making an accusation here, but I do want to help people avoid making this mistake. They had bone and flesh before they sinned, before they recognized their nakedness. I think your comments were probably addressing this point though (http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1747). Thanks for the comment and for taking the time to read the post. Lastly, as scripture verifies scripture, we see the second Adam, known as Jesus Christ in regular and perpetual contact with the same God and Father. In conclusion, the whole of chapter 2 & 3 causes me to conclude that Adam regularly communed with God somehow; and to me probably daily (or at least almost) since we know we are the apple of His eye. With that in mind, what makes you say, from the text of Genesis, that the phrase translated cool of the day would be better translated a strong wind? If strong wind is the better translation, when prior to this event did God manifest himself to Adam and Eve in a strong wind in such a way that when they heard the strong wind on this occasion, they knew instantly that it was the sound of God? Adam and Eve were the first human beings, from whom every other human being descends. God loved to come and take a walk in the garden in the evenings when the shadows were cool, and the flowers smelled sweet, and when all the animals came out to play. There are many, many Christians who have heard and taught that Adam and Eve physically took walks with God in the garden before they sinned. In all likelihood, it comes from a misunderstanding of or making an inference from Genesis 3:8: And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day (NKJV). I hope this helps. Some people have inferred from this statement that they must have known what it sounded like to hear God walk in the Garden so they must have walked with Him before. 1 They Could DECIDE Genesis 3:2-3. They will live forever, and as well see in the coming chapters, some of them have been given dominion over certain things. Im not saying this is true, Im just pointing out that scripture does not say skins of animals or that God killed animals to clothe them. Behold we shall not sow,nor gather in our increase: now look at 21 Then I will command my blessing upon you in the sixth year and it shall bring forth fruit for 3 years 22 and you shall sow the 8th year and eat of the old fruit until the 9th year until the fruits come in. I believe one of the biggest weapons used against it is when secular opponents are more aware of the accuracy of the passages like this than we Christians who misuse and misquote them. I would assume that they drank goats milk during this time as well. I must stand corrected as I also remembered Adam and Eve walking in the cool of the afternoon with God. they heard him rebuke them. Yes, Jesus is God and was in the beginning with God, but the part about the Word becoming flesh and dwelling among us (John 1:14) is a reference to the Incarnation that began when He was conceived in Marys womb. . It says, coats of skin. Its not like Genesis 5:24 (Enoch walked with God) or Genesis 6:9 (Noah walked with God). Picture this. He knew good because he once served God; he then knew evil because he committed evil in his rebellion from the Father. Third, Adams response at seeing Eve confirms the point: This is now bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh (Genesis 2:23). Of course, the eternal Son, the Word by whom the Father made all things has always been present at the Father's right hand. An additional notable commentary is that God made Adam in His image and likeness, and imbued him with His Spirit the breath of life. In fact, earlier this week during a Q&A session, one of the guests asked about Adam walking with God in the garden. And therefore, it seems to me familiarity was brought about by regular communion/ communication/ visits from the Lord. I happened on this post because the thought came to my mind that God only walked with Adam, not EveI do not know why I had the thought, and I had not checked Gods Holy Word on the issue, but I read your article which partly validated my thought in an unexpected way. . I believe the context of the above verse was a time when ADAM was NOT at enmity with God and they conferred with each other. Tell everyone with small kids! Now we do not see You any more. I would take them apart and look inside to see how they worked. " (John 1:18) . He could have done it audibly from the heavens, or He could have spent time with Adam in the garden. Why dont Adam and Eve know that God is with them at all times? Im not sure what this has to do with whether they walked with God in the garden. Im not sure where you got the idea that Im hellbent on trying to make a point of saying that Adam and Eve did not walk with God. I have no problem with the idea that Adam and Eve may have walked with God, which is what I stated in the conclusion of the post and in several follow-up comments. However, God did come physically to Abraham and ate. Personal fellowship with God is at the very heart of our purpose for being! To add to the post above, another theological consideration is the temple. "And out of the ground the LORD God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. Hi Janice, Adam said, I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself (Genesis 3:10, ESV). 00:00. It is not an issue of molester in the same room with a kid. Adam was ashamed to stand before God as he was now a sinner who was about to face his righteous God. The sound of movement. The parts of the claim that are not in quotes are my reasonable inferences of your intent, given what you do *say verbatim*. I dont know if I will recieve a responce or not, but it does not say that God made them skins from animals. Theres no reason to think that they waited 60+ years to have children when they were already husband and wife and were created by God to fulfill the instructions He had given them, including be fruitful and multiply.. Genesis 3:8 Context. Before the fall, Adam and Eve were without sin and immortal . Im pointing out that possible understanding of the text. This walking refers to living a life that pleases God. Who is this that would kill him? The Lord could speak from His throne and these actions could be performed just as easily as if He had manifested in the garden to perform the actions. Maybe this is why pastors and teachers teach it this way (that God regularly walked with Adam and Eve), because they can see from the word study that this was a regular occurrence. However, I also notice in chapter 2 that Adam recognized God speaking (commanding) to him concerning the forbidden tree. The old has . I think too often we read ideas into a passage that might be accurate, but then through the years, our interpretation of the passage is taken as a given that it must be true. Before He came to earth two thousand years ago, Jesus appeared at various times in the Old Testament in a physical form. It is like asserting that, since NO text in the Bible OUTRIGHT affirms that Adam ever saw the stars, then It is unwarranted to assume that he ever did see the stars.. We can speculate, contemplate, and imagine probable scenarios by referencing other relationships in the Bible, but in this day and time especially, we must be diligent and aware of the texts true contents. Thanks for your thoughts on this. I know when I say that Adam walked with God in the Garden, I mean to say that God spent time with them, not literally walking in the garden, God doesnt walk, He is Spirit! The point was to urge Christians to pay closer attention to the text of Scripture. by Erik Jones. Further, although the phrase could be translated as a strong wind, the text would still say that he came walking in a strong wind. Privacy Policy. They were created pre-programmed by God. It seems likely that many people have just remembered some of the wording in this verse and assumed that it says Adam and Eve walked with God. Therefore while at yet there was no temptation, walking with God was natural. Well done! Lord God (Jesus) walked among Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Here is just one example about working the land 26:1 make no idols. Awesome, you as a Dad leading his children, as the word instructs. Here is a link to the Wikicommons page showing that this illustration is in the public domain: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png. But thats not at all what is going on here. 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, >>>>>and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. constant) communication with God (e.g., the angel in Daniel 10:13 who was withstood by the prince of Persian for 21 days until Michael came to help him). 30? It is also the case that Adam and Eve had been commanded by God to "be fruitful and multiply, and fill the Earth" (Genesis 1:28). So if your standard were correct, then that same standard would itself have to be outright affirmed in the Bible. I have been following the comments on this article for several years, and I want to say how much I appreciate your kind and faithful answers. God bless you. Thanks for the comments. ~~~~~ There are other passages in Scripture about those who did walk with God. This is very important to walk with god on this because if they didnt walk with god by keeping his commandments sabbaths and statutes then there would be no rain. Maybe it is implied elsewhere in the Bible? For more on the issue of Cains wife, see this article: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/cains-wife-who-was-she/. It doesn't say they viewed God with their eyes. Of course, from this view God was perceiveably with the pre-Fallen Adam and Eve, so that they had the privilege of regularly hanging out with Him. But Adam and Eve were almost certainly not in the Garden very long prior to their Fall. I appreciate your fidelity to Gods Word. Im not sure you have dealt sufficiently with the argument that God must have walked with Adam and Eve in the garden previously for Adam and Eve to know that they sound they heard was God. How cool would that be! The sound of God that Adam heard was not the sound of God speaking, because God speaks after Adam has hidden himself, which Adam only does after he hears the sound.. The Tree of Life was in the Garden was it not? However, most people inevitably mention . To the second point in your conclusion, I think it is quite speculative. Could Adam and Eve have actually taken walks with God in the Garden? I appreciate your effort Tim, thank you. Ive heard far too many people claim, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the cool of the day. Thats simply false. They may have walked with Him prior to the Fall, but it just doesnt say that. As God had promised, they became mortal. Abel may have had plenty of kids who would want revenge against their Uncle Cain for killing their father. So what if he didnt say the words in genesis one would think you would be wise enough to figure it out its not hard. Since the Bible doesnt make this claim, its impossible to know for sure where people get the idea from. I have read the account of Creation, Adam and Eve, and the Fall so many times in my lifetime, but I just recently realized that the Bible doesnt say that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden. They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden at the time of the evening breeze, and the man and his wife hid from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. It says that he went to the land of Nod and then she conceived a son (Enoch). You cant see that Leviticus expounds on how to walk with god? Based on the sheer number of people who have claimed this, it must be found somewhere in the Bible, right? Now there is no way to prove that God actually walked with them or actually spent anytime with them, it is just implied from His habitual coming to the garden in the cool of the day. 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