Dianes daughter started saying that she did not know who shot them right when she got adopted. They finally charged her and she did 10 years for the death of her children. A sick kid who had a stroke and traumatized being pressured for weeks to remember her mother killing her? Christies response: My mom.. To the authorities, it was a ridiculous notion that they would not entertain so they did not follow on numerous leads coming from people who had seen someone corresponding to that description. She goes on to say that she has deep regret and mourns the loss and death of her children. A demonstration in court strongly suggested: Suggested, not confirmed. If the goal was to get rid of them, why didnt she emulate her lesser half in this matter? What matters to me is that her rights were trampled during her trial. That same gun turned up at a police raid years later in Perris, California, and it did not match the ballistics from the shooting site. She had no blood spatter or gun powder residue on her hands,clothing or hair. And if she did it, she has served her time without displaying any violent tendencies whatsoever. Leave a memory or share a photo or video below to show your support. But, after she had moved to Oregon for her job with the U.S. postal service, Roger reconciled with his wife. But I know that there were major problems with this case. Apparently drug mafia wanted to punish her for messing her nose in forbidden places, not because she was getting any real business in that but simply because she had one of the poorest judgements a person can have. Many individuals associated with the the child welfare system, for one reason or another, choose to adopt children. Our laws are not written that way. Mind: Wrongful convicted. She had not fired a gun. They rarely are, especially in the US. Diane had learned from nine months of interaction with Knick, that the man was consistent only in his inconsistency. I have watched her parole hearing. From the very beginning, the DAs office had their ducks in a row because in an unprecedented move, Judge Gregory Foote who had denied access to the children by all blood relatives and given their care over to the State, was promoted from juvenile to senior judge to preside over the trial of Diane Downs. A conviction founded on lies is no conviction at all. Page 50 of Case History Clickhere to read about faulty ballistics.. To have separated Christie from her brother and the rest of the family to be able to get her mom was unconscionable. Do not take this so personally. She had the right to a fair trial as much as anyone else out there. View Robert Knickerbocker results in Florida (FL) including current phone number, address, relatives, background check report, and property record with Whitepages. Lets not forget that she was presumed to have fired a gun 6 times at close range within the confines of a small car. This is to avoid the conflict of interest that we read about above. Instead of shooting the little kids, why didnt the carjacker/killer (CK) simply shoot DD dead and take her car? And the state refusing to turn them over to the defense? So appropriate! ""Moochie"" was a Senior at the time of his death, November 6, 1974. . I know several foster parents and social workers. Id have more influence arguing for better relationships with Mexico at a Donald Trump rally in Mexico. Lack of blood spatter is not evidence of innocence Especially when a shooter is leaning in and shooting into a box (car) while standing outside. Diane, of her own admission, had plenty of affairs while she worked at the Post Office. While Rules book is biased, it was a look into the view of those who wanted justice for those children, wether you agree w/ their conclusion or not, that was their goal. It was also said at trial that the shooter would have been left handed, which was not the case for Diane. Her 7-year old daughter Cheryl died but her 3-year old son Danny and her 8-year old daughter Christie survived. You do not refute any of the points I made in the blogs. A 1951 graduate of Johnson City High School and retired after 20 years from the United States Air Force. The powers that be knew they had nothing on Diane so Christie became their sacrificial lamb. Her arm was severely damaged, so shattered that she needed a graft from a hip bone. It should be illegal to use real names and facts from a criminal case while influencing the publicto falselybelieve that the whole content of the filmis true. She was harshly judged because of her demeanor. So I did not post your comment about his answer to your inquiry. And the fact that Tracy wrote in his notes that Christies reaction could have been excitement to see her mom but they decided to only mention extreme fear? It seems that the Downs were totally ignored. Her children deserved the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I am just curious. High profile cases usually do not get the same treatment as regular folks. I still remember my mother picking up the paper and seeing the headline. If, as Proctor said, it was exchanged right away, and the other Ruger was subsequently stolen by Steven, how was it remotely possible for him to have this info? In the end, it is scary how media becomes some kind of Roman circus where people is thrown in order to become a source of business. Only in Hollywood and in Ann Rules books, would you find such fantasy. I had never heard of this case and fell upon several videos that had me completely convinced DD was a narcissistic psychopath. It did not matter that they had no evidence; they did not like her attitude and she was going to pay for it. Downs called Robert Knickerbocker, a married man and a former coworker in Arizona with who she had been having an affair. Nine months after the shootings, on February 28, 1984, Diane Downs was arrested and charged with one count of murder and two counts of attempted murder. It's surprising how much a musical selection can affect mourning. A. I believe Charlene and I had a big blowout around Thanksgiving and I left, called Diane. Of course I saw movie first, then read the bookI wanted more, sadly early Internet days, there wasnt much out there, as far as info or video, picturesnothing really. You hit the nail on the head by stating that in the US especially, they seem to shun complex ethical problems preferring to deal with absolute evil in order to exert absolute power to crush it. It has become entertainment and there can only be good, bad and evil. Her power to manipulate is why she is where she is to begin with. One of the flaws was the relationship between the DA and the children. No way. I refer you to this section of the blog: They claimed to have found two lead cartridges in Dianes rifle at home that supposedly matched the ones used during the crime. Aint no one gonna tarnish my guys lol. Meaning a trial where lying or failing to disclose exculpatory evidence by prosecutors is not happening. I do have to take issue with this article about Diane Downs. View the profiles of people named Robert Knickerbocker. The family moved to Mesa, Arizona, and Diane and Steve worked at the same mobile-home manufacturer. Blood spatter is not an exact science, and is interpreted differently by experts. Danny downs did indeed say a man shot him he also blamed a cartoon character. View Robert Knickerbocker results including current phone number, address, relatives, background check report, and property record with Whitepages. Jump through the States hoops, or find a noose around your neck. ..it is quite possible if she was tried in todays world, with the evidence they hadquite possible it would of went differently we been living in a society that pretty much demand 100% pure forensic evidence proven. The timing of her arrival at the hospital should have been discussed and explained in more details. 3) You have a photo of Diane before the parole board. 5. Instead of grieving, Alice went partying and had sex. It was positive only on a small portion of her upper hand where she said the gun touched her when she wrestled with the attacker (a detail she had mentioned before they did the test). What got her convicted was two things the towel and Christie. They dont need to be adopted and have their entire identity changed. Every single one of these questions matter. This whole case is flawed. I would also like to express my disbelief that the same judge presided over both the child welfare case and the criminal one. So should I put an addendum saying that Diane contradicted herself or was not satisfied with the sketch? So not addressing the content of the blog and rambling about everything else while asking for a disclaimer is nailing it? Right after the shooting, little Danny would ask the nurses, Why did the mean man shoot me? and it would be written down in the daily notes. He told the police that Diane had previously stalked him and had even seemed willing to kill his wife to have him all to herself. She never mentioned that before, and she doesnt mention the FBI agents name. Robert is related to Linda Knickerbockerpowell and Elna Mae Knickerbocker as well as 3 additional people. I am a firm believer of where there is smoke there is fire. He was interogated but, the police never had a reason to doubt him. He asked her for the car keys and she pretended to throw them away to distract him. By the way, Dianes parents mourn the loss of their grandchildren to this day. The fact that they used her daughter and lied about the gun they could never find makes it a wrongful conviction. It probably was not salacious enough for her readers that she polled online to establish if there was enough interest in the story to fill her pockets with a definite blockbuster. I can only imagine to absolute horror of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca during their horrific murders. In reply to Kit The definition of deviant sociopath does not even exist in the DSM-HI, which is the official psychiatric diagnostic manual. The fact that there was a rush to judgment, an investigation targeting only one result and a media coverage often presenting lies is very bothersome. In fact, Diane had consulted a psychologist after the tragedy and after months of consultation, she was never diagnosed as a sociopath. (He WAS shot in the back remember). Go to the hate groups for that. Guilt or innocence no longer need to be debated in this case. He hired Jim Jagger on the 1st of June 1983, 11 days after the shooting. Diane and her family fought for them but were blocked from day one. All smoke and mirrors to fit a certain scenario. A. I dont recall telling her to get an apartment. There have many times children have had to testify against their parents so the fact that many cant believe it was ever allowed should honestly research more. Seems like she was her worst enemy. http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v09/n364/a03.html // Prison-happy U.S. must reconsider use of mercy; Carol S. Steiker, professor at Harvard Law School, Sep. 10, 2008 , http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20080910_Prison-happy_U_S__must_reconsider_use_of_mercy.html // US Prison Population Soars to 2.3Mln People at Annual Cost of $7Bln The US prison population has soared to 2.3 million people costing the government more than $7 billion per year. But if the blogger is arguing that the blog is balanced and objective, thats patently untrue. That conflict of interest alone would incline Christie to testify against her mother. I found nothing. All rights reserved. They are the ones who considered Dianes children as Small Sacrifices. The hell with doubts, ballistics and pesky details about the shooting, we cannot disagree becausethere is hunting and fishing to do and friendships to uphold. Another conflict of interest. The detectives took Diane to the crime scene and were able to retrieve shell cases on the ground where the incident happened. I dont know the woman. CK was willing to take, or attempt to take, the lives of 4 people in order to steal their car. Therefore, those jagged bones were floating in a cloth wrap, merely resting in a cloth sling. This was all logged in Christies hospital reports and is found in the Appendix of the petition filed in Federal Court in 1996 in the section Hospital Reports. Were they involved in the plot too?? I bet the records are and always have been sealed regarding this aspect of the case. Its too late for me to call myself a murderer (when I am not) just to purchase my freedom. There is so much to say about this blog I wouldnt know where to start. (LOL!! Not that Dianes mental health was not a factor in her letter, but it was definitely taken out of context in some instances. If you had commented on one of the elements contained in the blog, it might have been enlightening. Re Diane Downs I invite reading Synopsis quite similar to above: OREGONs Juridical Small Sacrifices Their life without parole sentences are a dime a dozen and so randomly used that it beats any notion of justice for all. Gregory Foote who had denied access to the children by all blood relatives and given their care over to the State, was promoted from juvenile to senior judge to preside over the trial of Diane Downs.. Her parents Willadene and Wes were old school Baptist parents who raised her under strict guidelines without much warmth but complete devotion. Maybe she wanted to buy drugs. Mr. The jury verdict was guilty on all counts, but there was a mixture of votes. Or be mentally ill. The lack of balance and objectivity. No one bothered with these details so I did. But you told Diane Downs to go ahead and get an apartment? Comments about the title of the website, the blogger, the bias, details like the word bipolar and when it was used when cyclothymic disorder was diagnosed by the person who treated the subject and there is an affidavit posted. Removing the children from her and presiding over her criminal trial? Q. While that makes her technically eligible for parole at some point (in her case 2009) it does not actually mean she has an end date or a release date. In reality,the whole caseturned out to beno small sacrifice for Diane Downs, but it was a huge victory for the State, the media anda very lucrative deal for theQueen of crime fiction herself; Ann Rule. HUGE conflict of interest. The case was so one sided that it is about time some of us bring up the other side. Foote refused 30 to 50 reports by detectives of sightings or leads about the shooter but admitted reports from people in Arizona willing to badmouth Diane. But I think that in all fairness, many of them dont even know the details of the case and have watched Small Sacrifices instead. But the fact that the prosecutor called her a deviant sociopath in court without any assessment became another nail in her coffin. It is not because a defendant is found guilty or disliked that it is acceptable to bend the rules. The prosecutor would gently shake his head and the good judge would follow with a ruling. As she walked away, Detective Welch called after her, If you dont testify against Steve, youre going to lose everything. Diane turned back to say, Show me proof, and walked away. Or maybe an upvote/downvote arrow for each. You seem to believe everyone is innocent. Thats why Diane wouldnt agree to marry unless Knick first signed a premarital agreement that when they divorced, Knick would take nothing from their marriage. And he was found not guilty because his defense team played the race card in an area of LA where they did not trust the police and discussed EDTA and DNA ad nauseam to confuse the jurors. The whole family were co-conspirators and involved in the crime? By the way, this not a Diane Downs is innocent blog. It is a lets examine the facts of the case with hindsight and try to explain some of the inconsistencies and the role of the media and crime writers. And lets wonder why the US think that letting people die in prison is the answer when most civilized countries have reached other conclusions. We identified 6 records related to "Robert Knickerbocker" in the state of Arizona. You have that part absolutely right, so why was this protocol ignored? The next day, on June 16, 1983, CSD terminated Dianes visitations with her children altogether. Page 10 of Case History. It would not benefit you, my children, or society for me to perpetuate that lie. She could not have been shot twice in the back while sitting up and have the bullet pierce her body to end up under the floorboard of the passenger side. This blog is riddled with inconsistencies, suppositions and a lack of the most basic referencing (e.g. She attacked her husband and ripped his neck open in a jealous rage (Appendix 81, page 1520), tearing from his neck the gold chain he still wore from his first marriage (a gift from his first wife). It had nothing to do with the evidence of the case and represents useless labeling anyway. she flat out says, they are saying Duran Duran made her shoot her kids!..Im like HUHOkay now this is my favorite groupstill is at 44yrs old.I had to investigate this. Jennifer and Sarah Hart killed themselves and murdered their six adopted children in 2018 by driving their SUV off a cliff in California. The previous video you sent me shows a Jagger pretty animated and involved in the defense of his client. Where is the blood spatter on Diane? Sign up for service and obituary updates. WatchandWager will be operating harness racing at the Arizona Downs racetrack according to the terms of a newly signed deal. Is. In the moment of who shot youmy momhave a hard time believing that could be coached. She even provided the police with her own sketch. This seems very punitive to have a law like this be retroactive. Send a note, share a story or upload a photo. Because she had driven that area for years for her work. If appropriate family members could not be found to take placement of the children then family friends are the next step. The blog tries to bring balance and more objectivity to a case that was TOTALLY one sided and still is. He should have let someone else handle the case or let someone else adopt the kids. Robert Knickerbocker in Michigan. I will post it when I get it. See more Show your support Send Flowers Send flowers or a gift to a service or family's home. Once you are vilified in the media in the US, the way Downs and others have been, a lot of people shut their eyes and their mind to any other possibility than what was presented in the court of public opinion. Likewise, Charlene had no intention of letting Knick divorce her (Appendix 81, page 1518, line 15). This same witness corroborated that Diane did not stop to do something suspicious or dispose of the gun. There is also a recording where she says that she had no idea who shot them. Even if the nurses notes indicated countless times that the children asked for their mother and enjoyed her visits, they cut them off from the only family they knew and loved; supposedly for their own protection. Was that Annes fault as well? You are telling me to take my smugness elsewhere because it is tiresome. And thats fair enough. Everything matters in a trial and investigation. As a married man, the ball was in his court and he decided togo forit. I think it would give the blog more integrity and transparency. They should have taken the time necessary to find enough evidence. In high school, she met handsome Steven Downs who saw her for the great beauty she had become. Inside, outside, top to bottom. Messed. Run Bambi Run! It is also very is to clean. I was a patient of the doctor who worked so hard to save her childrens lives that night. Yet that didnt stop Knick from asking Mr. Frederickson for a job and for Dianes hand in marriage (Appendix 81, page Case History Page 25). Diane followed the detectives to their car. She may be highly vulnerable to losing control of her emotions in emotionally charged situations, creating faulty judgment and ineffective and inappropriate behavior. There is also a recording where she says that she had no idea who shot them. Or why the fact that he was a con artist made him such a credible guy in this case. A conviction founded on lies is no conviction at all. Page 50 of Case History. Robert Knickerbocker in Phoenix, AZ Robert Knickerbocker may also have lived outside of Phoenix, such as Carefree and Scottsdale. Other Locations Watertown, NY Scottsdale, AZ . I cant believe that it was allowed to happen, actually. It was not unlike brainwashing. I can make out I will ask you to take a good look at the people in your life. You hit the nail right on the head. They are still part of their birth family. Libby, I quoted what Diane said. You say she made more of a fuss about her arm than about the injuries her children sustained. In fact, what investigator Tracy had written in his notes is that the heart monitor jumped because of excitement or intense fear. . Why was no one in the family given the right to adopt them. It probably makes you feel so good. She entertained the idea of opening a surrogacy agency but the project never really took off. Imagine knowing that your adoptive dad was responsible for putting your natural mom in the slammer? The weird behavior (laughing and joking in the shooting reenactment), bullets found at her home and the constant changing of her story only is icing on her guilty cake. Great blog post, thank you. Having recently done research on the Liysa Northons case which was the subject of a book written by Ann Rule titled Heart Full of Lies,I came across some very interesting information about the Diane Downs case because Rule attended the trial and also wrote a book about the case called Small Sacrifices. It deserved as much attention as a Unicorn, a song or all the other hearsay floating around because at least, they came from real people signing official documents. What about the son saying that man and nurses noting that. A. I was still living in the house, yes, sir. Danny said several times that a bad man shot them and it was written in the nurses notes, but never that his mother shot him. Dianes injury had to be quite painful and shewas in shockwhile driving to the hospital and accompanying the detectives to the crime scene. It is documented in the blog where I give the source In the 1996 Federal Petition, you can find the Anatomy of Brainwashing that can answer any question on this subject. They said so and were told to go back to deliberate. Robert Knickerbocker is 66 years old today because Robert's birthday is on 05/15/1956. The person who shot the kids was leaning inside the car because they were shot at close range. Consider offering these words of comfort if you're not sure what's appropriate. What kind of arrangement is appropriate, where should you send it, and when should you send an alternative? The harm done to families by unscrupulous district attorneys who bully children into falsely testifying against their parents has been recorded in a documentary called Witch Hunt by Sean Penn about Kern County (CA) District Attorney Ed Jagels. How asinine. According to Detective Welch, Steve Downs followed Diane to Oregon, they fought and Steves rage took the last step on the path hed been treading for a long time. I am sorry but I got to laugh a little. I still dont buy her story. She always seems to have not a very close contact with reality. She had been isolated from her whole family and being unethically interrogated. The police admitting on the stand that after 2 weeks, they stopped looking at suspects appears to be a fact. She was the first to admit that at times, she was somewhat neglectful, impatient, yelled too much, and could have been a better mother, but she seemed to have turned the corner and was doing her best with the means at her disposal. (Yes, speculative). I cannot be more transparent than that and integrity was one of the missing pieces of the entire case. Diane was known for her love of all animals whichshe treated with great care, and for her independent and wild streak. From what Ive read, she gets a parole hearing every decade and the next time in 2030 she will be 75. According to the State, ballistics evidence proved that Diane Downs was guilty. Fingerprints at the crime scene were not produced by the State. Ffs maybe u should go back to writing screenplays. It was a dark and rural road. Information and advice to help you cope with the death of someone important to you. Why did they let her daughter testify when she could not know who shot her and said so incessantly until they made her say what they wanted? What mother takes her kids out at night and then stops for a stranger with her kids in the car? To find out which of Robert De Niro's films stand out among the rest, Stacker found his top 50 movies based on IMDb user ratings. She is still in prison. Then feel free to correct the facts and to provide evidence to support them. They now have social media arenas reminiscent of the Romans cheering at the sight of a thumb down meaning there will be a bloodshed. (Yes in the 1980s a ten yr like myself was not as mature as say todays 10 yr olds. The notions of humanity and rehabilitation have been left on the wayside long ago. Now Diane Downs did not say any of this, but told a hard to believe story, and then changed it from one to two masked guys, etc. It was omnipresent in the courtroom as well as the Duran Duran song Hungry like the Wolf that supposedly was playing when the children were shot in the car. It turned out to be a mistake because he was married to a County Circuit Court Judge who would become a colleague of Foote and he had no intention of defending Diane vigorously. You indicated you were not going to get a divorce? It became more about despising Diane Downs than investigating fairly. Downs brought authorities to the crime scene, where police found spent .22 caliber bullet casings, but could not find a weapon. I guess he did not want too many people to know about the improprieties that happened in his courtroom: I guess? Robert L Knickerbocker, 63. The man you have listed as Fred Hugi is actually Dianes attorney Jim Jagger. Two wrongs do not make a right but illustrates that she should have never been coerced before, during or after the trial. Then ask yourself if thats how you want your son to grow up. And it is not like these two were white as snow. The diagnosis of the psychiatrist for the state is also clearly documented. Uncover Robert's photos, videos, and more , Personal details for Robert may include . How could they expect a normal mother/daughter reunion between a beaten inmate whose mental health had degraded and a daughter trapped in this insanity? Very little is definitively known in this area. I think u need to read the facts. What they did to her daughter is unconscionable. There was no question in Dianes mind that Knick would take another mistress if she married him, and that hed move on again. Are you still taking comments by email? A very reasonable request that was rejected. Of course, because this is what she does when people put her on the spot and ask questions concerning her mother and the shooting. On June 17, 1984, a jury found Diane Downs guilty of murder and attempted murder. Downs tried to defend herself against the allegations and said, "Why would I have taken my kids to the hospital? Rule defended her right to earn a living and to tell her story. They hated her attitude and thought she was promiscuous and showed no sorrow or remorse. And they kept at her and made suggestions when she would not implicate her mom. In fact, with her continuing to deny committing the crime or expressing remorse, she may never get out. 2 years in foster care waiting to be legally free for adoption is not that uncommon even today. Gosh Donna, you really dont have a clue. But I am so tired of the enough time has been served and other criminals have been paroled. ..maybe it was lack of Internet and cellies *shrug)..years later, my Co worker at burger King (I was 16)told me about the small sacrifices movie she watched the night before. So the hell with no gun, no GSR, no blood and no witnesses except a sick child who denied knowing who shot them until she could not anymore and happened to be adopted by the prosecutor; making it look like she could never change her mind and reveal that she has no memory of the shooting and maybe have the case reversed. If Diane was bipolar, the non-stop chatter would have been inherent to the situation: bipolar wasnt a diagnosable condition at the time of her first trial. Dianes automobile was secured and examined and no gun was found. The fact that she was driving five miles per hour to the hospital says it all as a mother myself, I dont care how hurt or mentally damaged I was, I would drive that car 100 MPH to get my children to safety. View property details and household demographic information related to income, investments, and interests. Also, the title of the website clearly demonstrates an inherit bias. More often than not, Christie was interviewed by State Agents (Paula Krogdahl, Paul Alton, Steve Downs and Dick Tracy) within half an hour of having her Dilantin increased. In this article, we can clearly see that Becky struggled and tried to justify her woes (maybe rightly so) by blaming it on her DNA. Shes guilty. It would never happen todaynever. Due process always matters. Christie was it though. Who Is Robert Knickerbocker? 2. Children under the age of twelve may cognitively grasp the concept of truth and lie, but lack the conscience which compels people to apply the concept to their lives, or the strength to maintain the truth when adults coerce her to lie. It is not a plus, but it is not a crime either. The children were in the hospital, it isnt like they could have taken them home. Andthe DA adopted her other two children. If not from her high profile status, she would already be out. At the point Diane jumped into the car, her broken arm (resting in a sling in front of her) slammed into the steering wheel. Bear in mind, that arm consisted of two SHARP bones, cutting at nerves and muscle (1 of bone had been blown out of the arm when the bullet shattered it, leaving three jagged holes in the flesh, out of which bulged torn muscle, and two wedge shaped bones facing each other like dueling swords). , Show me proof, and Diane and her 8-year old daughter died. 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