But with respect to being chosen they are loved for the Patriarchs sake, 29 for Gods free gifts and his calling are irrevocable. The point is that the Word of God, which includes the Torah, is unchanging from the Throughout Christs ministry he spoke nothing but the Torah, Leah. Jealous because many Christians read the Holy Scriptures with a Greco-Roman mindset and want us Jews to do the same? He has to return for his bride before the marriage covenant is fully in effect. Read it 10 times and God will grant you true Biblical revelation. ALL THINGS including following Gods instructions for our best life now (not for tripping us up) Hes the original author of that idea. I didnt come to destroy them, but to fulfill them, because I tell all of you with certainty that until heaven and earth disappear, not one letter or one stroke of a letter will disappear from the Law until everything has been accomplished. If, like many Christians believe, Rav Shaual had written against the Torah or any other part of the Holy Scriptures, then that would have made him a pathological liar and a false prophet. If they do, they will learn just how important his law especially His 7th day Sabbath is. He NEVER teaches husbands to submit to their wives, though he is clear, love your wife as Messiah loved the ekklesia. Paul, further, teaches that elders and ekklesia leaders are to be men (husbands) and that women are not to teach or even speak in the assembly. Get the book from the interview here or read all about it here. You can not ignore scripture to live comfortable in your sin. From all i read and hear from them it is borderline cult at the least heretical teaching. John Campbell, I have read your postings and I only come up with questions What do you mean when you say Jesus Fulfilled Torah? 119 Ministries has many teachings about the law of Moses. He also said if you love me keep my commandments. The bulk of your reply was an ad hominem attack on me. The reason why there is so much discussion and disagreement on this blog is because Jesus is not the Messiah and the New Testament is not the inerrant word of God. Loving your neighbor: Also done by keeping the Torah. Their vocabularies didnt contain a word that could even come close to the Torah (instructions, commandments, laws, ordinances, rulings). The one party New Covenant was established by Jesus blood. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. And therefore the Great Commission also says to follow the Torah. If of course you follow (understood) Pauline doctrine. I am enjoying your comments & thoughts. 1. to fill to the top: so that nothing shall be wanting to full measure, fill to the brim You must follow the example the teacher gave to you. The Hebrew Roots movement and even 119 Ministries are not cults. Amen. 7 (6) If your brother the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter, or your wife whom you love, or your friend who means as much to you as yourself, secretly tries to entice you to go and serve other gods, which you havent known, neither you nor your ancestors 8 (7) gods of the peoples surrounding you, whether near or far away from you, anywhere in the world 9 (8) you are not to consent, and you are not to listen to him; and you must not pity him or spare him; and you may not conceal him. Psalm 119 Ministries - WELS Psalm 119 Ministries I have a nephew wrapped up with "Psalm 119 Ministries," which is a cult, following the Torah and observing the Sabbath on Saturday and "obeying" other practices and commands of Moses. They do not. These are all things found in Torah that show us how to practically love our neighbor. See ticket information, a trailer, the cast, and more at the link below or above . The hardcopies, that I purchased new, date to the previous century. This is how we will be acceptable to Him when He returns: For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 119 is right on target. Leah, I came across this post during a search. Jeremiah 31:31-33 (capital letters for emphasis, not shouting). As for claiming that the use of sophisticated stuff like Greek & Hebrew definitions & implying its wrong is astounding if we do not know what the original definitions are we see an increase in how many people are taken in by false teachers & false prophets because they change the definitions. 11 (10) You are to stone him to death; because he has tried to draw you away from ADONAI your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of a life of slavery. How do I know that? JUST like you would your Bride/Bridegroom you were so in love with, after becoming engaged and making your marriage vows. I believe this interpretation to be correct and supported by the very subject of the scripture in question. Nuff said. So in closing we are saved by grace, thru faith to obey His commandments in the Holy Spirit and it all equals life! Amen. I and some other pastors are working on a apologetic ministry type reprove and seeking any and every bit of information we can to answer to this false doctrine and heretical teaching as we can. "DAVIDA MAN AFTER MY OWN HEART, WHO WILL DO ALL MY WILL". But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. Many are called, few are chosen. Then other times they change their mind and say, oh we think its not like we thought it was at first; now, after searching more, we believe its like this. 5:1). Here it says he brings both groups together into one NEW man. I have seen Nehemiah Gordon make that argument, and to the best of my recall, I do not remember seeing you acknowledge Gordon. If you believe you have liberty of these things then so be it, dont obey. This revelation is crucial for a relationship with our Messiah, good and great Chief Shepard. Which ever day belongs to Christ ..I think they all belong to Him but you may observe only one day ..Our brother Paul allows for that .. So I have had to resort to mostly praying. and then said, Sean try to find someone who loves you enough to share these things with you I think it will be difficult to find them in your own group however..You will have to go outside the camp . And that is a big reason why there is so many people who Im sorry to say? So why do I believe 119 only gives the two choices in presenting their belief? I appreciate your comment. Or was she in submission to the owner of the restaurant who rewards her with a paycheck for following his order to care for his customers?? Matthew 5:17-19 Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. Depending on who you ask which cult do you profess? Cant wait for Passover now. It is you who fail to take all of Scripture into account. I have studied the book of Hebrews from the Greek and the Aramaic with supporting concordances, etc. This is what I heard when my eyes were opened while studying. He then goes on to say that this New Covenant will be based on the very commandments he is giving that very day. to complete Our purpose is to seek and bring the truth to all nations, unlearn false doctrines and traditions of men, and to equip the body to live and practice the Word as God originally intended. There are numerous other teachings of Christ related to the law of Moses versus Gods law (Sabbath, being born of the spirit, etc.) From childhood I have repeatedly read it cover to cover, daily, on my own, studying. How much more severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he WAS SANCTIFIED, and has insulted the Holy Spirit of grace? ( Hebrews 10:29) And there is very little true reverence (or healthy fear) towards God nowadays. I do not personally celebrate Christmas or Easter although I have in the past . the tenant given to buffet our flesh until the Seed came)? Hallelujah is not even a word it is compounded by two Hebrew words Hallel and Yah. but thats one of those teachings that creates conflict and separates people instead of just loving each other despite the differences. to throw or prostrate oneself, throw oneself upon And I have watched these same people go from belief to belief. Pleroo is almost always translated using one of these third choice English words. As Paul teaches, Gentiles who believe are now PART of Israel, and now no longer Gentiles. or why not ? How do you know if you may be caught up in error ? We live in relationship with God and seek to become like Jesus. And its not a matter of what feels good, as in, I get to do what *I* like. Yes. And the same word owlam is used for the feasts as we see in, And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance FOR EVER., *note the word for ever is the Hebrew word owlam. And that is just one of many examples of how so many of us Christians have been misled by preachers who didnt really know Scripture but continued to just pass on doctrine ABOUT Scripture. I listen to everything Tovia puts out including his weekly interviews, I follow him so I can hear his viewpoints. I was so strongly convicted I knew for sure that this was from the Holy Spirit, as I couldnt open my Bible until I had repented and prayed for 3 days! Father YAH laws are perfect and I try to obey them out of love but NOT out of demand. What right does any religious group or person to tell the Nation of Yisrael what their Torah means and that its done away with? Their teachings are extremely dangerous because they are truth interwoven with fallacy and the hope of man to please God by works more than the love of God and exaltation of all He is. As previously stated, the Greco-Roman mindset is not the correct way to interpret the Scriptures Its either ancient Hebrew or nothing at all. Its pretty plain to see, Leah, that you, like most Roman Catholics I know here in Italy, see the Brit Hadashah (New Testament) as a license to sin and rebel against Gods holy word. I will pray for you, Leah, that the God of my ancestors removes the scales from your eyes allowing you to see the truth. I started my own journey of the scriptures and apologetics and landed about a yr into it with more amplification from what 119ministries provides. Id also like to use some of your material here in a student chapel Im doing at my school (a very nice Christian school, might I add) and was wondering if I have your permission. teaching from 119 Ministries, but I want to test everything by the Word of God. And this is love, that we walk according to His commandments. And that is the final blow to ever entering the kingdom of heaventhere is none righteous, no not one. Looking forward to your take on the book. 15 For if their casting Yeshua aside means reconciliation for the world, what will their accepting him mean? Never have we been so close, so happy, so at peaceTorah reading, Shabbat and the Feasts are absolute blasts! With that said I have run into both extremes. They refuse to Act on the words/ instructions of shepherd Jesus. May the hand of YHVH keep us safe! ALEPH. Three issues were presented for you to think on, yet you responded to only one. To say that Yeshua temporarily changed his allegiance from submitting to the father to submitting to the church is also to say that he changed who he worshipped. And further couple those chapters with Eph. Without that, the traditional and largely Catholic and anti-semitic interpretation of the NT falls short in accuracy. I take that to mean that we are yoked to eternity ..to life . For example, Jim Jones was a false teacher that came from a protestant denomination, thus all protestants are false I dont think so. Not to sound like Judas but couldnt truly that money have gone to the poor ? Remember that WE broke Gods laws and instructions / WE are the sinners, not YHWH. Which is again a huge example of the importance of freedom in Christ. When I stand before God I can say I chose not to partake of anything that might remotely offend Him. -2 Corinthians 11:3-4 How could God divorce them if they were only betrothed? This seems to be the main issue I continually hit with when dealing with these accusations. Perhaps that is why Paul said to run the race to win? David ..the danger from 119 and HR is the same that paul faced down in Galatia Paul saw the danger of a group placing too much emphasis on the outer spiritual pride . (Read my articles on food if youre interested in how I read the scriptures (yes, for myself, not what Ive heard preached)). Faith with out works is dead. Thank you for your clarification. Scholars have proven this. 5:12) I am also glad to hear of more brother/sisters are seeking understanding the nature of Yah and his teachings of days including the one he blessed during creation (Sabbath). Following His law is the fruit of our salvation as it is obedience to HIM! We are all on a journey and name-calling has no place here on your ministry page. (what does Satan, I mean Santa have to do with anything, except NOTHING, or Easter, one of the many names of Mithraism and the eggs dipped in the blood of your sacrificed infant to YOUR god, Molech) Its Sun-god worship. This is the people to whom Paul wrote. The more you know whats actually in Scripture the better you can spot the errors. Does that change the truth about the gospel and the Church? My Messianic Jewish wife and I both agree that many Christians have never truly understood the sacrificial death and the glorious resurrection our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, or the glaring fact that he is the Torah, the Prophets, and the Holy Writings, in flesh and blood, which is now a glorified body. Notice that Peter did NOT say I now realize how true it is that God has now abolished his own laws for his people and we may now eat the flesh of any animal, including the pig that the pagans regularly offer to their false gods.. But from what I read, they moved here to be able to take advantage of the lower cost of living and quit their jobs to do their ministry full time. 18:18 will be out on Friday Enjoy. Israel was the lost sheep the messiah came for, then he extended this to sheep we did not know of. Yes He came to establish a new Covenant, but with whom? Its not a westernized book that you read like any other. Typical example. But the point needs to be made that parts of Christianty are indeed keeping much of Gods law I mean, why tithe if youre not supposed to keep THAT law? Rather, it was Rachel who died, when she bore Benjamin, because she stole her fathers teraphim and Jacob pronounced a death sentence on the thief. Im currently composing another article in response to your earlier question about did Jesus lie in Matthew 5:17-19. GotQuestions.org is a ministry of dedicated and trained servants who have a desire to assist others in their understanding of God, Scripture, salvation, and other spiritual topics. Bottom-line, the current Saturday / Sunday days of the week do NOT coincide with the 7th day or 1st day of the original Hebrew calendar week. There are some for whom it probably will be. Little has changed over the centuries, except that there have always been faithful who sought to keep Torah, including the Sabbath (rest), the appointed times of YHVH,, eating only clean animals aka food, etc., as well as lawless ones who persecuted them. townhomes for rent in spring, tx; does vineyard vines shirts run big or small. This is why Christianity in general has so many critics bc there are so many who have non-Biblical opinions. We've all heard that we're grafted in, but just what does that mean exactly? He is a jew who is one inwardly , Whos praise is of God and not of man ..whos circumcision is of the heart and not of the flesh . It seemed to me that everything I was taught was biased. After more study and looking into the 1119 ministries and the Hebrew Root movement, I also believe them to be a cult.. 119 Ministries and there teachings have to be tested, either their teachings are from the Word of the Living God or they are not. I too believe in holding dear and guarding the commandments of Yehova. Im currently reading Tovia Singer and other Jewish authors. And some quote scripture out of context and cherry-pick verses to fit a preconceived doctrine. It saddens me to see earnest people being deceived. Notice I did not call you a name, I said you sound.. Hi Cem, But its only going to help someone who is wanting to see what Scripture itself says. Like any other the differences believe in holding dear and guarding the commandments of Yehova should teach.! 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