The spread from the short barrels also made it much easier to hit moving targets from a bouncing coach. I prefer its striker design, but otherwise Im in total agreement with the author. The double-barrel action is compact and allows for longer barrels while retaining a relatively short profile. This article was good food for thought and hopefully will help folks make good decisions. I could be wrong, but thats just the way I see it. True..the side-by-side is a fairly compact firearm, but there are a number of pump guns that are also equally, if not more, compact. Of the very few I have had the opportunity to examine, they are awfully heavy guns to carry afield. The tang safety means the gun can be carried while hunting with the hammers cocked and the safety on. The new double shotgun still contained the R 734/715, L 733/720 with moderate pitting in both bo. Features an under lever action that when depressed opens the breach, twin back action hammer locks, engraving which covers and extends over the hammers, action and other parts. Bores are excellent. At near contact range, he fired one round of 12 gauge (paper) 2 1/2 #7 1/2 shot. Not every shooting/self defense is going to occur under perfect lighting while standing in front of a paper target that is not shooting back. Probably manufactured between 1874 and 1878. Some years ago I bought a Spartan, 20 inch coach gun. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); eventually became my DOVE GUN. Just like a hammerless shotgun. They are both opportunistic scavengers and cowards unless traveling in packs.That said I am looking into getting another double barrel because the varmints arent impressed with the sound of the racking slide.Enjoyed the article, it covered all the pros of the Double and reminded me how much I miss mine. The load may be changed quickly if the problem is a dangerous animal such as a rattlesnake just outside the door or a predator such as a coyote farther away. If a round isnt already chamber, still gives the perp your location. The sound of a pump action will scare the Hell out ofwhatever. Serial numbers started at 1,000. No "si, Damascus gun with good 30" bbls, chambered 2 3/4", marked 32 and 39 (R,L), bores R 730/699 (IM) and L 731/703 (IM). 's blog. A double barrel is certainly a choice to be considered. Yeah, but 20 inches is a great length, giving the gun excellent balance and a smooth swing. Ejectors. Available in 12-gauge and other sizes,. Year after year, decade after decade, they withstand the test of time and conquer all rivals. Modern Century Arms double-barrel coach guns also feature a handy tang-mounted safety. The recoil is light, and the shotgun handles quickly and gets on target fast. As a result, America is awash in old Remington Model 11 sporting shotguns. need to be practiced as well. Damascus barrels with excellent bores choked full & cylender. IMA considers all antique guns offered on our website as non-firing, inoperable and/or inert. The extra barrel doesnt add nearly as much weight or awkwardness as you might think, and the gun just feels good and shoots really well. $919.00. Major and minor roadways have always been prime places for folks to get robbed by various forms of bandits. External hammers make sense for less experienced shooters and for loaded storage. The cost was very reasonable so the side by side was purchased and came home with me. If you need it to be politically correct and not a scary black evil gun, everyones grandpa has a wood stock and blued steel. It comes in 12 or 20 gauge, or .410 bore with either blued steel and walnut, or in a tactical model with a black synthetic stock and Picatinny rails. We assume no liability associated with misuse of our products. Thus making their own coach guns. America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter, Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window). Dont get me wrong, itll thump your rear like an angry mule with hemerroids using 00 buck, rifled slugs, 3 heavy high wall brass, magnums doesnt matter, itll eat it. Side by side "Old West" style. At in the house ranges, it is deadly and will make a mess of anyone hit with it! The last E. Remington & Sons catalog of 1887 indicates there are seven grades of the Model 1882 and that the Grade 4 is the one that contains engraving, but had Damascus barrels, not Laminated steel. The company saw fit to arm its messengers with what would become known as messenger guns and coach guns. 2-piece steel buttplate. My DP-12 holds 16 rounds of #3 buckshotquite a bit better than 2 rounds. But it also means the gun requires a bit of breaking in. Very good overall condition. I agree with your comment, Ed. 1 Image (s) But if you have your heart set on that exposed-hammer goodness, theres at least one other option out there if you dont want to hit the used market. Today, side-by-side shotguns themselves are fairly uncommon, only made by a handful of companies. PULL! Classified Ad (1000+), Search Full Text of Listings I now have a win. Shotgun is equipped with ejectors. With much less Flinching. Learned to fire it with some degree of accuracy by the time I was tall enough to reach the triggers. It has beautiful 30 Oxford 4 J.S. A pump has more rounds on tap than the coach gun. When I did private security work I always carried a 590 for backup before law enforcement could be summoned and arrive. The Condor Outback is also available with a less striking combo of blued steel and an A-grade walnut stock or a synthetic stock. Im not saying it happened to meIm just sayin. It comes with 20-inch blued barrels (full 26-inch barrels are available) and exposed hammers with a color case hardened receiver. A fine high condition Remington 1894 AE Grade shotgun with 32" Damascus barrels. Second having access to backup rounds was considered, and third the intimidation of a laser sight/flashlight combination was also added with a folding stock. Here we present an antique Remington Model 1889 Hammer Shotgun, manufactured circa the 1890s in Ilion, New York. These weapons were known as "cut-down shotguns" or "messenger's guns" from the use of such shotguns on stagecoaches by shotgun messengers in the American Wild West. E. Thus having access to a larger capacity of rounds was one of my first choices. And yes my state allows you to chase them down outside and shoot them. That said, however, the politicians knew what happened, and when that onerous ban came up for review in 2004, it was quietly allowed to sunset its way out of existence. Chambers are polished and chamfered, so shells go in and out like you remember when your wives were young. The Grade 6 that is illustrated is the only one known at this time. Once you have fired both barrels, and open the action, good luck getting the shells out. I am by no means an expert, but my thinking the coach gun known as a blunderbuss was a mussel loaded black powder gun. on the other hand, i loved my dads MOSSBERG 12 gauge pump, with a POLLY choke, for everything else. Full and SK. I also wished Id thought to scrounge up some paper-hulled shells to go with it. Measurements of a number of frame sizes conclude there are That is all, pretty much, still true. The double-barrel shotgun offers a formidable deterrent. Heavy, kicks like a mule, AND holds 2 cartridges? This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering. I have to ask: When you say Size of shot pattern for birdshot to buck shot no more than a quater under 15 , have you actually patterned your gun? I have found with my 20 870 (deer barrel, rifle sights) that the IC choke gives good buckshot patterns and excellent slug accuracy. Default sorting. This JIC unit is available anytime I leave my residence. If he is running the threat of danger has passed and if you shoot and hit him you open yourself up for prosecution. Center fire Black Powder cartridges of the period were available and are so marked on the inserts, Known examples are .38-55 centerfire and .40-70 centerfire. What choke? If youre recoil sensitive, consider a slip-on buttpad or a recoil pad for extended shooting sessions. I like it for edc and carry it in my Jeep Wrangler coach. According to Charley Simmer this is the 31st one of these he has documented. Coach guns have extractors, but no ejectors (like a single-shot external hammer gun I have). Short is more important for handling than it is for spread. The guns of the Civil war were certainly effective. The turkey loads produced dense and deadly patterns for a gobbler at 25 yards despite the cylinder choke. Heres hoping the semi-auto TAC-13 makes a return when the Remington firearms brand gets up and running again. View. The Grade 6 that is illustrated is the only one known at this time. In case you were wondering, the three barrels fire in sequence with each pull of the single triggerfirst the right barrel, then the left, and then the top. In 1882, E. Remington & Sons discontinued production of Beautifully engraved with game scenes. 20 gauge is a great choice for people of light of stature. yes , my coach gun is a 12 with 000 buck, yes its great, range loads are Aurqila shorty slugs. What I was not aware of was the unease I would have over the striker design. The audible racking of a pump is probably overrated, because you are likely to do it before the bad guy is close enough to hear it. Barrels are 30" and have ver, #79XXX 30" DAMASUS BARRELS WITH FROSTED BORES MODIFIED AND MODIFIED 2 1/2" CHAMBERS DOUBLE TRIGGERS EXTRACTORS SPLINTER FOREARM PISTOL GRIP EXCELLENT MECHANICALLY ORIGINAL CONDITION, 30" MOD AND FULL 2 1/2" CHAMBERS STEEL BARRELS DOUBLE TRIGGER EXTRACTORS SPLINTER FOREARM PISTOL GRIP MOST OF THE ORIGINAL CASE COLORS LIGHT HANDLING MARKS IN THE WOOD 7LBS 13 0Z X 2 1/2 X 1. The action is extremely tight out of the box and even a little tough to open at first. One of my many shotguns is a Taurus Circuit Judge .410. Dan, I thought that home invaders were pests and varmints to be controlled. An attractive trigger guard gives the Coach Gun and Coach Gun Supreme a more refined appearance, with smooth curves that complement the triggers. Law enforcement officers today have a wide selection of incredibly powerful tactical flashlights. Having said that I have two Mossberg 500s outfitted for both in and out of home situations. The information provided here does not represent the views of Cheaper Than Dirt! Both barrels are pitted and well past the age of any kind of "safe shooting" so this is offered and sold strictly as a wall hanger. Fla Detective in Upper Central Florida used a Shotgun taken from a drug house raidshortened barrels of Savage 311 ( I think ).his faith in that The barrels are 20-inches long. Produced for over five decades, the Remington 1100 is a gas-operated, semi-automatic shotgun that combines a proven action with elegance and modern style. ATTENTION: Please be aware of online merchants impersonating as direct Stoeger retailers. While I use birdshot for training, birdshot is by no means useful for personal defense. - SEMI PISTOL GRIP STOCK WITH REMINTON LOGO BUTTPLATE - LOP 14 1/4" - DC 1 1/2, 12 gauge, 30" fluid steel barrels choked full & full. Play Trigger Guard An attractive trigger guard gives the Coach Gun and Coach Gun Supreme a more refined appearance, with smooth curves that complement the triggers. Default sorting; Sort by popularity; Sort by average rating; Sort by latest; Sort by price: low to high; Sort by price: high to low; Cancel; Add to cart. Product Information. The fact that you still see 870s and mossberg 500s in police cruisers would steer me in that direction. This is one time i want to be singled out as a major contributing factor and let them know how strong we are and how dedicated against someone like her. This is the reason we call this particular gun a Grade 4 and not a Grade 3. Found this post and thought that everyone would like to know that #7 1/2 birdshot is very deadly at ranges measured in inches, not yards. Hardwood stock. It has been completely revamped and updated for accuracy and clarity. Most women can handle the 20 gauge more accurately and consistently/reliablyand allows for more PRACTICE and Familiarization with the firearm. I am a bit of a traditionalist anyway. This GunTec video takes a look at this early model double. Action has been smoothed out for improved reliability. .036 & .005. Again it is practice/familiarization and what one has in their hands at the time of need. of 1875). This new Century Arms Catamount Fury is a semi-automatic shotgun which fires the 12 gauge shell. Extremely short defensive shotguns, like the Ithaca Auto & Burglar model, were popular until the National Firearms Act in 1934. This load consistently offers a minimum of 12 inches of penetration in my testing and should cancel Christmas for the bad guys at typical home-defense engagement. The P++ Grade checkered Walnut b, Rare gun in mostly original condition with good bores and having had some minor repairs, in tight shootable condition. Whether it's the most popular and enduring pump action of all-time, or autoloading innovation that sets the new standard for reliability, they all share the same legacy - the reliable Remington name. Also, the walnut stock illustrated on this Grade 2 is typical of that grade offered. My Mossberg 535 with 24 bbl patterns about 2 3/4 with full choke. Checkering is excellent. Plus, those barrels produced solid patterns at, and a bit beyond, typical self-defense distances. This type of shotgun was once the preferred weapon to guard stagecoaches. It was easy to handle and there wasnt much that could go wrong as long as the ammo was good. changed and is still quite tall. However, shotguns have come a long way since the days of the horse and buggy. They sat next to the driver on the coach, thus the name "coach gun." And while most were 12 gauge guns, there are reports that some were 10 gauge shotguns. Bores are exce, "Remington Arms 1894 12 Gauge shotgun. defender and although the appearance doesnt have the same effect as a double it has an effect as a short barrel shotgun and the racking of the slide to chamber a round is unmistakable and a very effective psychological tool. the future models of Remington hammer guns. The Triple Threat is the abbreviated version of the Triple Crown shotgun with 18.5-inch barrels. Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon I 26" 410 Gauge Shotgun 3" Over Under, Oil - J686FN6. For longer-range use, the Hornady 20-gauge Lite Slug is a great choice. CZ Hammer Coach 12g 20" Shotgun NEW (06130) Gun #: 939395544. The double barrel allows for a simpler (and faster weapon back to target with PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE, AND MORE PRACTICE) reload than most any handgun with less practice and will allow with quick follow up shotsshooting from the hip can and should be learned. Then you will KNOW. Shotgun AE Grade 12 Ga. 32" Barrels, "Remington 1894 CE Grade 12 Gauge (S10853), REMINGTON MODEL1889 DOUBLE HAMMERGUN WITH WELLS FARGO MARKINGS, REMINGTON MODEL 1900 GRADE K SXS 12 GAUGE, Remington Model 1900 12 Gauge Double Barrel Shotgun with Remington Steel Barrels, REMINGTON MODEL 1894 FACTORY CUTAWAY 12 GAUGE VERY RARE, Remington Arms Co., Model 1900 K Grade 12 ga Ilion, NY, Remington 1900 KED 12 ga, Remington Arms Co. Illien, NY. Most of the shells fired have been Winchesters 7 birdshot. 10 1/4-11 1/2 rifle-caliber carbine is superior in every way. The gun didnt do great on clays, but I can attribute that almost entirely to the shooter, not the gun. I think somebody might be making 20 ga loads in #1 buck, but Im not sure. FN moved production back to Remington when the Nazis overran Belgium. mod). My other edc gun is a Winchester 86 extra light in 45-70. Original Item: Only One Available. If you prefer a hammerless version of this excellent coach gun, CZ makes the Sharp-Tail Coach, which is basically the same shotgun, just without the rabbit ears on the receiver. It allows me to get off two very powerful shots very quickly; much the same way an African double rifle allows professional hunters to dispatch the most dangerous of African game when it gets up close and personal. When I took it to the range the first time, I found myself wishing I could have pushed through batwing doors with this little time machine of a shotgun. By purchasing an antique gun from Ancestry Guns you thereby release Ancestry Guns and its employees from any and all liability associated with use of our antique firearms. There is also the appeal of coach guns as a low-key defensive shotgun that doesnt have much negative connotation. Could the barrels be shorter and still be NFA legal? Affordable and powerful, it is worth a look. Those little shells in 8 shot make for a fun range pairing with the Hammer Coach. Grade 3 in that catalog is not engraved, but still shows that it has Laminated steel barrels. REMINGTON MODEL 1894 EE GRADE SHOTGUN GI#: 102148833 30 inch ordinance steel barrels. He, Very good, finish wear, nicks and scratches. Home Firearms Coach Guns Double Barreled Defense. With the open-choke barrels of the coach gun, 15 yards is the limit for retaining a good pattern for best effect, which isnt different from the average riot gun. Grew up with 12 gauge, double barrel next to the front door. They accompany me where I go. Yeah, its a Chinese POS. Specifications. The forend Action is tight, lever to the right of c, Serial #114728, 12 Ga. (2 3/4"), 30" barrels (choked Full and Modified) with fine, bright bores that have some trace freckling in the right tube about halfway down. No other pump shotgun can match the Model 870's strength and smooth, effortless operation. I recommend cocking only one hammer at a time until you are very familiar with the shotgun. This finely engraved gun contains a very unusual forend tip design not found on any high-grade 1882 known to date. Enter to WIN the Smith & Wesson and Black Hills package. Barrels are are 28"" choked modified and cylinder. Add the gorgeous color case hardening on the receiver and triggerguard, and this is one fine shotgun, inside and out. For those who wonder if the shot will leave the cup at short ranges, a tip: Use Rio Royal Buck no cup (I dont think other brands of buckshot do either I would never trust birdshot), extremely reliable, and certainly does the job. I offered to blast him if he didnt leave and he was still arguing when he got back to his car. But if you want one all around gun for home defense a shotgun is my choice. Winchester 1897, the Remington 870 and the Mossberg 500. enable_page_level_ads: true Prefer to by tried by 12 than carried by 6. 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