With time, love and patience he will become the dog god intended him to be. they are not albino their eyes are blue. Never give anyone or any animal a second chance. I never had a Doberman before but I love ours even if my wallet has palpitations when going to the vet for dog related issues! You have the attitude of a twelve year old girl, though I would like to think you are older. As far as loving them as a dog, absolutely. I think some people have developed an absurd bias. Hi, Ive been thinking about breeding Dobermans but not sure. I so miss her, no pup will ever replace her in my heart. We are not trying to replace Katie, that would not be possible. And the long haired dachshund at the pet store. According to Dr.S., An albino has no pigment to hair, skin, eyes or mucous membrane. The gray color may have a charcoal gray, silver, or purple tone. Somewher down the line, someone decided to select for certain traits, and breed for said traits. Both are great but only with a reputable breeder. I pray the universe keeps you from committing such a selfish act. Its easier to do research than you think. good people raise good dogs. I was very intrigued. I totally agree. The dilute colors were frowned upon in their beginning as well. So if you breed your dog again, you have 25% chance of every pup to be white, and 75% chance to black. thanks. In my opinion, not a good idea. please dont make more problems than the breed already has ! Also when you see a wonderfully behaved dobe in public, ask the owner what breeder its from. Explore. just because they are white does not mean you should not get them, albino does not mean they are bad. The white one is hidden if there is a black. She is also not fixed. Have talked with the breeder and the vet and they say its fine to feed him that much for now bc hes a very energetic puppy and is growing. its not that they are bad dogs yall need to get off your high horses just understand that as far as breed standard is concerned they are frowned upon She has had no health problems and we will be breeding her. Do you know they can get cancer if you dont get them fixed? I recently purchased a blue Doberman from a breeder. 4. Dobermans have a specific temperament that was bred to protect their owners they are also very well tempered around children and people. Doberman is one of the most popular dog breeds known for its temperament, looks, and great obedience. These cream, or as some say white ones, were first documented in the 1920s as being a dirty or apricot color. I am fair skin and burn easy. The blue Doberman is a dilute of black. Responsible pet owners do what is best for loved pet. anyone with as much as a passing knowledge of animal genetics knows albinism (yes, that IS what gives it the white coat) renders ANY breed susceptible to genetic issues. Responsible breeders breed healthy dogs. Ppl should not be breeding these animals. Its despicable. LOL We have plenty of Dogs and its always time for someones check up or booster shots. I had a Blue Doberman. You should come to Alaska, Where to begin Ok my family purchased a blue Doberman pinscher in 2009 at roughly 2 months of age with tail docked I was given AKC paperwork regarding history of his lineage and AKC number. Best yet is a responsible owner that does not spay or neuter and keeps their pet from unwanted breeding. More educated people know about this so spread the word. She is 7 month old and so beautiful. Go to the pound and get the dog of your choice. Maybe one of you will actually finish reading this and do some of youre own research. Probably not the answer you wanted, but I know DVMs who will not breed once a year if they cannot come as close as possible to not reproducing these health issues to further weaken the breed. He loves everyone, and everyone who meets him falls in love. In my eyes, its a crime to nature to breed anything like that. 3) If you have extra money enough, do NOT get the DNA tested, but rather give it to a homeless person on the street with a dog. I cant take him anywhere without people asking if hes a show dog. i want to know what i can do to make his time better when he has to be alone. But the Doberman is also born in a few other colors. Anyone who truly cares about the breed should not want to shut down discussions of genetic facts as proven by science not emotion. I gave him back to the Lord in compassion for my love for him. My vet at the time gave me something to bath Blue in. One of my customers told me about a documentary on Netflix called Petfooled. If it has two, it bcomes white. Mom kept saying that she didnt like Dobermans and Chantelle would sit next to her and lay her head on her lap looking up at her. So do I . The environment is everything. It is also far easier to know the temperament and shape such when purchasing a pure pup. The female is, and I love this dog so do not think I am biased, very stupid. When I worked they was able go outside in a large fenced yard . Im somewhat discouraged because shes such a sweet girl and I love her already. Yes, a Dobermann is the same breed as a Doberman and Doberman Pinscher. She was a faded Isabella, very pale tan. So my wonderful Doberman has been on a very light dose of potassium. As for good foods there are so many nowadays. My Westie wanted to be second in command and over stepped her place so now I cant let the Shepherd and Westie together. Mom kept telling her she didnt like her. Menu. Thanks! This poor puppy has already been through so much and I truly believe that is was brought on by improper breeding. And the blue Doberman is sometimes called a gray Doberman or silver Doberman. Females spayed at 12 months or younger, and both genders neutered or spayed at over 12 months had significantly increased odds of developing hemangiosarcoma, compared with intact dogs. The whites are AKC. People would come a far away to get one of her dogs. My Grandparents brought me up and as a child we had a German Shepherds called Sally who was farm stock and lived to be 17 and my grandad said no matter how many dogs you have there will be one that stands out head and shoulders above all the others for me it was Cleo! There is way to much overbreeding of ANY breed so dont single out the white Doberman and make shit up because you were either brain washed or breed and cant sell one of your perfect colored dobermans because someone may purchase a white over yours. Again, ethical breeders who care about Dobermans wont breed these dogs. Having said that, his eye sight is not perfect. And yes he is vicious. Christine your unhinged rabid defensive response suggests you likely own a white dobie and feel hurt by those facts presented. I find it offensive that they are still so many people who have such passionate feelings on the subject cant even do min. I think all dobermans are very beautiful and after I learned they come in so many colors I became very interested in the melanistic black. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans. Compared to intact dogs, neutered and spayed dogs had a 3.5 times higher risk of developing mast cell cancer, regardless of what age they were neutered. Until scientific research is done to prove they are albinoid, you all have no right to bicker like children about a dog. I so totally agree with you. The instructor said she used to raise dobies and my boy fit the mold perfectly. I dont agree with breeding whites at all. Health being the most important factor. My white doberman is perfectly healthy, with show quality disposition and features. I have a male isabella named Apollo and a femal black and tan named annie we are expecting puppies any day now!! I met a lady who worked in their processing plant and she told me what I was curious about in terms of what is in the dog food. i have a question i have a blue dover and i want to know whats good to giveum so they can be strong,im giving him yukanuba what do u request for him thanks, get rid of the whites no time for bad dogs. but breeding them simply for the pleasure of having a show quality dog is Dumb. Also we treat infections with MESOSILVER. it seems like we should not make arguments to support our own particular interest . I mean, AKC and purebred dogs are already sick and unhealthy as it is. I love the whites and blues they are great, KJ Hi, I dont know if you ever got an answerAs to where you could find a good, responsible, conscientious breeder, who may have White Doberman Puppies. onsumers and dog lovers need to be educated about the health concerns of these dogs. Good breeding is done to maintain the health of the breed as a whole. I feel so lucky to have my mila and midus. My pup is a normal 6 month old Dobe, she visits her fawn sis all the time and is happy and healthy. This will continue to happen due to the affluent culture and the preferences of people. the white and the SOLID black are to be avoided. Average $1200 - $2500 USD. In most mammals (including humans) true albinos have pink eyes because they have no pigment at all. So smart and loves attention. Feel free to join my group Doberman ReHome and Rescues. All my dogs have been indoor dogs so by dark mom was holding the door open for her to go in. Inbreeding definitely can introduce unwanted traits, as well as perpetuate themBUT..Line-breeding (aka Inbreeding), when done by a conscientious professional, can strenthen a breed. Although, that book does contradict itself in so many ways I digress. I will say the bad press about white/cream does not help. That will cause many health issues. Dobermans are medium-large sized with a noble appearance and sleek looks, being extremely intelligent and energetic. New Life kennels in Idaho has the best Dobies youll ever find! In horses, theres something called partial albinism. And while I have owned only one purebred dog out of a total of eight dogs total (only one of my mutts came from the pound. They are done with little to no health testing as well as little to no titling. in San Francisco whos up for adoption. More often than not, this is usually because circumstances the owner thinks may have caused such reaction. We love all dobes but to breed a dog who has health issues- related to colour or not, is cruel. And we have owned the famed Australian Cattle Cog whose intelligence is legendary. The Doberman is a powerful and proud dog, a natural protector of its family, with whom it creates one of the strongest animal-human bonds seen among dog breeds. WZ i found out after the fact from AKC is a designation of Dobermans with the albino trait even though he is a blue Doberman, he is a carrier and hence why he was given that designation. This color shouldnt be breed. Also, the skin/eye color isnt a qualifying factor for albinism just a sign of the trait. They owned him in an instant. Thats when she gave me the bad news. I own a blue doberman. I think there are a lot of moronic people on this site that are prejudiced as well as an educated even though they should stop and think that humans by their logic are imbread as well because if it was just Adam and eve then some body was double dippingso white dobermans arent alone are they? Yeah, I dont take her out in the middle of the day( we live in Florida) but I dont go out in the middle of the day either! Shelter dogs arent for everyone. Of course, as is the case with ANY short haired whit dog, there are limitatipns to sun exposure, much the same as with fair-haired humans-They both sunburn easily. In a healthy dog, it looks shiny and sleek. The skin is Red/pink not the eyes. My heart goes out to you and all who have had to deal with the lost of a good dog. doberman pinscher puppies. But it will be years down the road. Thankful of it! They always have. Personally I think the standard colors are quite beautiful but then Im a bit biased as my Princess is a red. Ive grown up with Dobermans all my life and I knew Sebastian would die of a broken heart if we didnt get a companion. I made a broadcast post that we have adopted a 7 month old. Just remember to ALWAYS monitor children with dogs. Take your pup home and love it. I think the people on here telling others that breeding a dog for a look is bad should really stop and think about what theyre saying. Oh, wait ~ It must be your words put together in a sentence that are just stupid. think of it as thanksgiving dinner if you will. They interbred the two and then bred the offspring (for several generations, I might add) and out popped what is in my opinion the finest canine ever produced. Other than that he is in very good health. But dont worry cuz the american doberman is not alone. They are HEALTHY, Happy, Loving, Stable friends. She already had beautiful manners, we just added a calm environment and patience to her life, which made her the perfect companion for us. Smh . Hes now 10 years old, and has fatty cysts all over him. Wow, great to hear. You are not helping, you are hurting, period. This article forgot to mention that not long ago, the fawn and blue Doberman pups were culled (Killed) at birth. Amen to that my wallet is clapping in agreement! I recommend anyone buying a White Doberman to search for AKC registered dogs. Not legal there. Her skin got better. The white and the black. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. But he is, and always will be, the dog we loved the most. But the allel can occur spontan and of course, your dogs can be offspring from this white line. So sad I was really looking forward to puppies , You are unselfish. Can you tell me how your girl is doing and maybe send some pics? Many people crave having cute and adorable healthy pets. Hello Michael, I too am not a breeder/trainer but I am now on dobe number 3 and have worked with them as security dogs. This is a fallacy. Im very lucky as many are not. doberman pinscher playing. I have taken in many dogs that were not purebred and wonderful animals. The first documented albino Doberman, Sheba, was born on November 10, 1976. The one in white what type of doby is this???? Some people are better at this than others and some dogs (regardless of breed) are easier to train than others. Well I am the Proud owner and friend of one black and rust, one blue and rust, one red and rust, and two isabella (fawn) and rust Dobermans. She has NO health or behavior problems what so ever. Once I took her to my vet, he notified me of the skin issues. All of our Dobes have been raised and exposed to children (many small children as part of their socialization) and have done great. White Doberman Punchers have NEVER been proven to be albino, and yes, white dobes can be show dogs in some countries, and, yes, there have been white champions, regardless of temperament. Recently lost our beloved 12 year old stroke and cardiac arrest and we have been so very devastated. I started with a potassium tab that you can get at almost any store. Studies have proven that this breed of dog is very unique. For example, if the white gene in a tiger provided resistance to any given cat disease, then breeding white tigers could potentially endow the species with a get-out-of-jail-free card in the future. As a result, some countries have banned the breeding of this dog mutation, and breeders are encouraged not to breed for this color. Shelter dogs and puppy mill dogs are bred by irresponsible assholes and greedy bastards. Responsible breeders produce healthy dogs with desirable traits that in many cases either ensure a valuable services or facilitate ownership for people who might not otherwise be able to live with a dog. When Becky started to talk her first word was Clee her word for Cleo as Becky got to four years old we gave in and let her hold Cleos lead as she had been asking from about two years of age ? Neutered and spayed dogs had five times higher incidence of other types of cancer, regardless of age of neutering. The white Doberman is not an inbred retard but a beautiful color variation of the Doberman breed. He was only 4 and a half years when cancer disabled him. 88+ Purebred Doberman Haversham Puppy - l2sanpiero 88+ Purebred Doberman Haversham Puppy Hi animal lovers, I see you are looking for 88+ Purebred Doberman Haversham Puppy. Not sure if it is the novelty of the color that makes people want them and then reality sets in Dobermans are not low maintenance dogs by any stretch. A pad with MESOSILVER taped to his foot and leg cured it in three days! However, for a Doberman Pinscher puppy with top breed lines and a superior pedigree, you may need to pay between $3,500 and $5,000. The evolution of dogs is extremely rapid and at the descretion of their human counterparts. In the meanwhile we put aside all our reservation about getting a puppy. They can have skin and eyesight problems, like photosensitivity. But can we work on the live forever thing, its a problem for me. All domesticated animals including all dog breeds are a bit of an abomination or reconstruction of natural selection and I feel that we need to be wary of pontificating or judging the significant efforts of those who believe in breeding white Dobermans. She has not health or behavior issues. They have a personality unlike any other dog, if you had ever owned one you would understand. ?She starts her puppy training tonight! If you have a white and healthy doberman consider yourself lucky. He was barking the whole time and immediately started growling at my dad when we walked past his pen. A puppy has more physical needs than the average retieree can satisfy. It is a fault, there are only four allowed colors. I had two doberman a blue and a fawn they both loved to play with tennis balls. the cause is called interbreeding. Still, breeding is needed for that so the idiot you replied to is, in fact, an idiot. It is not for betterment of the breed, for confirmation or for the show ring because they are not the breed standard. The goal in breeding is to better each individual breed. A second question- I am single with no kids, if I get married and have kids, how is the Dobermans temperment with learning to live with more people after probably a few years with just me? We have tried adopting from rescues, which did not work, as they have issues due to abuse. They are evey bit the cherished Doberman Pinscher we all know and love. thank you. White Tigers are not albinos, and therefore do not suffer the genetic weaknesses common to albinos. Love this breed and thank you for loving it, too. And by the way dogs are not people. Regarding the albinism debate and eye color: albinism can be partial in mammals (and also birds, even wild ones), and can come from various mutations in the genome. I got him from a champion breeder and was hoping for a lot longer life with him. Although Im sure your dobie is beautiful, white and has a wonderful disposition, thats not the point. Joanne, I rescued a White Dobie about a year and a half ago and in December had a tumor removed from his eyelid and a few from his lip that were cancer. They are very pretty, but I think now Im having a few doubts.) He had a very nice temperament also. Maybe you should be the one doing more research. Thanks! All-black Dobermans are rarely seen but do exist. So they are very susceptible to sunburn, vision problems. We are just weening him off the noon meal little bit at a time each day. Pinterest. They are the best dogs. Namely you. While he lived to be 9, had I chosen to breed him, and I considered it prior to knowing he was a carrier, I would have done an injustice to the pups and everyone who acquired one. I use to breed Dobermans. I resently found a Doberman pup for a friend a little red bitch. I am familiar with the Triad rescue and i am approved by them. Exercise responsibility instead. Read all you can about dog behaviour to understand things from their point of view. If inbreeding or line breeding is used in any breed of animal to create an albino animal, there is a good chance that the animal will have health problems because of harmful recessive traits that crop up with the subsequent lack of genetic diversity. We have had various dobies since 1991. Pure breeding REQUIRES inbreeding. I wanted one that was very easy going, a little less territorial and on edge most of the time, because we had a lot of kids in and out of our home. : ). I have several dobermans I have all colors including white she is a beautiful happy healthy 2 and a half year old she has no health problems. If someone has a Doberman with a confirmation championship in the US and wants to show in Great Britain it wont be allowed to if the ears r cut. Shelter dogs are not for everyone. Furthermore, whilst I dont as of yet own one I think I shall purchase one just to chagrin the louts that scream so loudly about topics such as this, illegal immigrants taking their jobs, and globak warming being an utter farce. My .25 horse had an infection on the bottom of his hoof from having stepped on something. common sense be damned. Not the standard black and rust. Stop preaching your personal opinions, it isnt a crime to buy a purebred dog. 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